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Novel idea of paying 'small' bribe (or not) here and there to get your work done without 'minor' delay here and there by being 'flexible' ---

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/madurai/Mans-demand-draft-bribe-jolts-officials-into-action/articleshow/14190596.cms
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MADURAI: Frustrated over the delay in obtaining the birth certificate of his
son, who got an overseas job, an auditor in Virudhunagar sent a demand draft for
Rs 100 as bribe to the municipal officials. Shaken by the auditor's act, the
municipal authorities immediately ensured he got the birth certificate.
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gatanesakharam;463320The bottom line is due to something (somebody says population), the value of human being has reduced drastically. courtesy, respect, integrity are only in dreams and many of my friends even laugh at me saying you have unrealistic expectations from the society (LOL)

Good Luck!

Tell this to few people who even today think that population is not a problem, they have been saying that for years while every year new Australia is born.

I sometimes wonder, how they are going to provide Water, food(essentials) for everyone as the time goes by. On 105+ temp on regular basis, it doesn't take much for the land to dry. How do you grow food for Billion + people. I live in NE, couple of 85+ days and it dries quickly. This is scary.

Jaggudada;463326Tell this to few people who even today think that population is not a problem, they have been saying that for years while every year new Australia is born.

I sometimes wonder, how they are going to provide Water, food(essentials) for everyone as the time goes by. On 105+ temp on regular basis, it doesn't take much for the land to dry. How do you grow food for Billion + people. I live in NE, couple of 85+ days and it dries quickly. This is scary.

The growth rate of population is declining in India.
Feeding the people is not a problem as we have a large surplus of food grains each year and are actually exporting quite a bit of food.
Our food production breaks new records each year.

Imissindia;463330The growth rate of population is declining in India.
Feeding the people is not a problem as we have a large surplus of food grains each year and are actually exporting quite a bit of food.
Our food production breaks new records each year.

But water supply is a problem unless inter-linking of river is completed quickly. Rivers in SI are rain fed and dry up in summer. Need to divert more water from North to South. Or develop desalination technology at lower cost.

Imissindia;463330
Feeding the people is not a problem as we have a large surplus of food grains each year and are actually exporting quite a bit of food.
Our food production breaks new records each year.

Until the next monsoon?

Old-Spice2;463332But water supply is a problem unless inter-linking of river is completed quickly. Rivers in SI are rain fed and dry up in summer. Need to divert more water from North to South. Or develop desalination technology at lower cost.

Agreed but this would take decades as it is a long project.

layman;463338Until the next monsoon?

Regardless of the monsoon, India has huge stocks of food grains and is in fact a major exporter now.

Jaggudada;463326Tell this to few people who even today think that population is not a problem, they have been saying that for years while every year new Australia is born.

I sometimes wonder, how they are going to provide Water, food(essentials) for everyone as the time goes by. On 105+ temp on regular basis, it doesn't take much for the land to dry. How do you grow food for Billion + people. I live in NE, couple of 85+ days and it dries quickly. This is scary.

Public and Government sincerely believe population is no longer an issue in India. People have completely blocked themselves to the fact that population is the still today the absolute root cause of every other problem India has.

According to this link India's population will reach 2 billion by turn of the century. So we will never see it reduce in our life time:


http://geography.about.com/od/obtainpopulationdata/a/indiapopulation.htm


The fact that India's growth "rate" is reducing as pointed by IMI is a bogus indicator that gives a false sense of exultation and I do not see any tangible benefits near term or long term from this reduction in the growth rate that media and everyone else touts as panacea for the population problem. It's like saying the airplane continues to gain speed beyond a 1200 Miles Per Hour airspeed however it's acceleration is slowing down slightly. What is completely disregarded in the message is the fact that the plane will run out of fuel before landing in the nearest airport and it must be at half the speed right now and it's already too late. When people start believing a stupid Nokia phone in the hand of everybody is the epitome of progress and every other problem can be conveniently ignored then there is nothing much that can be done by you or me.

Imissindia;463341Regardless of the monsoon, India has huge stocks of food grains and is in fact a major exporter now.

In that case,what is the reason for high food inflation, malnutrition/hunger related deaths in India ?

Tsozum;463176For some of the responses I wrote, I got few private messages asking for my reason to move back to the US. So I thought I will spend few minutes and post it here and make it public. There were two main stream of issues that I want to highlight as reasons for my return.ProfessionalI moved to India in May of 2010 through the firm that I was working for in the US. The opportunity was great as I was tasked with building a team ground up. I put my leadership in place and grew the team to over 75 people. I had a great management support as they had also returned from the US. Few of my peers who led other groups had also moved back from the US. So it was great management team and we all got along just fine. There was zero politics marked by an extremely collaborative work style. However, the partnership with the US management/teams were pretty rocky. Since this was a captive the team engaged directly with the teams in the US. The US management never saw the India as equals and were always griping about lack of experience depth. Pushing back demands that India bring developers with 20+ years of experience resulted in dysfunctional conflicts. This resulted in India team being an order taker with absolutely no ownership. Every thing was driven from the US and the India leads role was more or less administrative in nature with only people management. Second issue that bothered me was work-life balance. I never was able to return home before 10:00 PM because I had to overlap with CST. This meant eating really late night dinner and go to bed pretty late. However I had to wake up by 6:30 because I had to take my children to schools. I felt this put lot of pressure on the health with late night dinners and perennial lack of sleep. PersonalThe place I worked was in Mumbai. What this meant was I couldn't afford a decent property within reasonable distance of my work place. Small apartment put in place by clearing slums (where some still remained) costed multi-crores. The place I ended up renting was, by Indian middle class standards, unimaginable with Rs. 55,000 per month rent. The only reason i rented the place was lack of red pan stains and crumbling structure. However I had to live among people who were rich on the outside but were all garbage inside. They wore fancy clothes but the means by which they acquired their living standards were questionable. I had movie industry people as neighbor and, oh boy, I could write another post describing personality and type of people who visited them... unsavory.While one will argue that Mumbai has the best infrastructure and living standards in India (relative) I found it woefully inadequate for a city that wants to be regarded as one of the global cities. That said, I did move to India with right expectations and honestly the pollution (dust, smog etc) didn't bother as much (my kids has troubles however). I could manage the heat, commutes in rickshaws (i figured out how to sit and not hurt my back), pushing other people about hard to get my veggies weighed at grocery stores etc. The thing that bothered me the most is general attitude of people. I felt there is generally a downfall in the value system in India. I soon realized the India I left behind many years back is not the same anymore (rightfully so) but things that shouldnt be changing was being cast aside. Issues like eithics, integrity, basic cleanliness & hygine, courtesy doesnt exist (when I mean courtesy I don't mean opening the door for others and leave it open for the next guy --- courtesy here is letting a wailing ambulance pass rather that use the ambulance siren for one's own advantage slowing it down).There is absolute downward trend when it comes to ethics & integrity. The government is full of people who leech off others and this behavior has now trickled down to private sector as well. Every one wants to move up the ladder and is looking for short cut. With regards to hard work and commitment to work is concerned -- well i find it among only few in the general populace (including my staff). We all complained that 30% taxes that we paid returned absolutely nothing -- no public schools, no public health, no safety --- police are chors, no legal recourse (the only good dead was the army keep Pakis at bay... which is good)Living with this conflicts turned out to be much harder, and I had to do only one thing to resolve. Move back the US and lead a routine boring lifestyle that I sought to escape. Now I rather live this lifestyle for now and figure out what to next after 3 years or so.Those who are interested in moving back and really want to understand some of the details, feel free to pm me and I am more than happy to discuss/share my two cents worth over the phone.Thanks

Corruption, pollution, traffic, high inflation, no parks---boring stuff reapeated again and again. R2i is for different reasons other than these...that too working in IT in India...expecting US lifestyle.....hmmmm...