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Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:29 pm
by Archana935
Starbucks,DD,taco etc etc and be it brands like Louis ,chocolate like Godiva and Lindt,vacations to eve Hawaii and Bahamas,clothes,etc etc has become normal in India Atleast from what I hear through my friends,see in Facebook etc.
Few questions which I am trying to understand..
1) If one is able to get all that in Indian salary and stay in our home country,that's the best deal!!
why come to America nowadays?
2) So many are unbelievably financially well off in America.Why aren't they returning back to or own country?
3)Everytime I call my friends back home,they talk about how much we are missing staying out of our country and wasting life,gets me depressed..how do people make their R2I successful?
4) I myself have mentioned that right attitude is the key but since I am earning in American dollars I am able to afford certain luxuries and give back for my family.If we can all do that back in our home country,is it time we return back?
5) The kids these days the way they dress, education in good schools,their confidence and attitude back in India makes me feel the kids growing up in India can have best of both worlds which includes grandparents love.Easier for them to make friends rather than forced play dates.
6) the club memberships people have in India,high affordability makes me think of we are in denial.Probably India has reached a stage where it makes no sense to leave out home country anymore?
7)One friend back in India mentioned sooner or later American dollars will equal Indian rupees..is there a possibility?
Are we unnecessarily having dilemmas to go back to India?has things changed finally?
Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:35 pm
by okonomi
You must read member pqr2012,
http://www.r2iclubforums.com/forums/showthread.php/41138-few-health-tips-for-r2i-candidates?p=657018#post657018. And other posts about doing karate in the front yard , and never going out wearing sleeper.
Archana935;657047Starbucks,DD,taco etc etc and be it brands like Louis ,chocolate like Godiva and Lindt,vacations to eve Hawaii and Bahamas,clothes,etc etc has become normal in India Atleast from what I hear through my friends,see in Facebook etc.
Few questions which I am trying to understand..
1) If one is able to get all that in Indian salary and stay in our home country,that's the best deal!!
why come to America nowadays?
2) So many are unbelievably financially well off in America.Why aren't they returning back to or own country?
3)Everytime I call my friends back home,they talk about how much we are missing staying out of our country and wasting life,gets me depressed..how do people make their R2I successful?
4) I myself have mentioned that right attitude is the key but since I am earning in American dollars I am able to afford certain luxuries and give back for my family.If we can all do that back in our home country,is it time we return back?
5) The kids these days the way they dress, education in good schools,their confidence and attitude back in India makes me feel the kids growing up in India can have best of both worlds which includes grandparents love.Easier for them to make friends rather than forced play dates.
6) the club memberships people have in India,high affordability makes me think of we are in denial.Probably India has reached a stage where it makes no sense to leave out home country anymore?
7)One friend back in India mentioned sooner or later American dollars will equal Indian rupees..is there a possibility?
Are we unnecessarily having dilemmas to go back to India?has things changed finally?
Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 8:46 pm
by wd40
You must keep emotions aside and make an objective assessment about whether you really want to R2I. If you get emotional and do it, you will probably repent later once the novelty wears off.
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Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2017 10:03 pm
by punjabi
its all about confidence. If you are confident of dealing with day to day problems in india and manage to get a good paying job then go for it.
It also helps if you are financially secure.
Maybe a r2i trial for 6 months will help.
Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 5:15 am
by Umang
You sound like me a few years ago. One can only believe this nonsense about India if one doesn't live here. They really do a good job of selling India abroad. "Booming" economy, rising "super power", all that rubbish. This golden-eyed view of India can only end when one experiences India on a daily basis for a few years. Otherwise, you shall keep dreaming these heavenly dreams of India that have no foundation in reality.
There is no substitute for health and there is no substitute for breathable air. One doesn't think too often about this in the West because one always has access to breathable air. Let me say in no uncertain terms: You do not have access to breathable air in India. Let that sink in for a minute. Air is more fundamental than food, more fundamental even, than water. Clean, breathable air is a rare commodity in India. No amount of nostalgia and access to Indianness can compensate for the loss of health and well-being that comes from breathing poison.
The people are horrible and always trying to fleece you. Your family may not be entirely happy with your presence here. The same "friends" who say you are wasting your life there will start saying, "Why did you come back?" if (God forbid), you eventually choose to return. They shall enter in a vigorous competition with you in comparing your child to their's: which school they go to, how many marks they get, what clothes they wear, what extra-curricular activities they are engaged in. Your own dress and appearance shall be commented upon in ways that you cannot even contemplate. It does not matter how Indian you are.
The traffic here is absolutely deadly. Indians and people from poor countries in general make very bad drivers: partly it is culture and upbringing and partly it is the pressure of population. Whatever the reason may be, Indians can't drive. You shall get into a big mess driving in India or even being driven around for that matter. Whenever there is an accident in India, and there are many, the drivers and owners of the cars get out and start arguing in the middle of the road holding up all the traffic behind them. Rules change very frequently here. Certain routes are stopped or diverted without any notice. One always has to be on one's toes. You cannot imagine this right now because you do not have to go through this on a regular basis. Perhaps, you secretly relish this as a challenge. I certainly did. But when you come to India and it all falls on your head simultaneously, you really can't take it. It's too much. The pollution, the gossipping, bad family relations, shitty attitudes towards women, constant commentary and evaluation on your behaviour, bad traffic, difficulty in getting phone, internet, having to drink water that has been filtered rather than straight from the tap, insects, mosquitoes, dengue, malaria, inefficient people. The list just goes on.
I implore you not to make this mistake. Come for vacations, buy a second home. Take a break if you want. But, do not dismantle your life in the West for attending to a fool's dream here. Indians will chew and spit you out like chicken bone and you shall bemoan your fate for the rest of your life.
Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 6:58 am
by wd40
Umang, you are scaring me. I thought, as per the Maslow's hierarchy, Indians(or atleast NRIs) like us have crossed the levels of safety and physiological needs and that we are looking for things like self esteem, belongingness etc. But from your comments it looks like we will fall back to the bottom, that sounds very dire.
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Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:01 am
by wd40
I think the best way to be sure of successful R2I is that you should have some serious push factors to get out of America. Like some visa issues, joblessness, recession, stress or anxiety etc. If life is good in America, it will be very hard to justify R2I, if things go wrong.
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Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 7:06 am
by Umang
wd40;657098Umang, you are scaring me. I thought, as per the Maslow's hierarchy, Indians(or atleast NRIs) like us have crossed the levels of safety and physiological needs and that we are looking for things like self esteem, belongingness etc. But from your comments it looks like we will fall back to the bottom, that sounds very dire.
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I don't think you shall fall that far. You are sufficiently culturally Indian to actually prefer Indian medical treatment to Singaporean. I am not like that. The way the OP spoke scared me. She has a very rosy picture of India and she talks the way I used to talk prior to R2I. Hence, I warned her. I believe what I have said applies to her situation. Yours is different. You make regular trips to India and you are closer to India in geographic terms as you live in another Asian country. Singapore is also not as far culturally removed from India as the West is. The cultural alienation is less severe. The fanciful notions Archana has articulated about India can only be developed in the West. She should be careful.
Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:39 pm
by dbs
Umang;657084Truly horrible people but I have learned to toss ny hair with disdain and they do not dare too often. Or may be they think that I am a failed NRI(when I was one) and have not tried to fleece me as I may not be worth it. I am cleverer than these natives and they dare not try to fleece me. No body can except that camera shop on Times Square and the Hotel in Niagra falls that succeeded because I was not paying attention. But these natives are very crafty. If I did not know otherwise I would think that they are happy to see me and every time tell me to return quickly from my trips as if they miss me.
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[Quote] I implore you not to make this mistake. Come for vacations, buy a second home. Take a break if you want. But, do not dismantle your life in the West for attending to a fool's dream here. Indians will chew and spit you out like chicken bone and you shall bemoan your fate for the rest of your life.[/quote]
Absolutely, I have been on this vacation for last twelve years and intend to stick to this rule with occassional breaks to take a breath (enough to stay alive) IN THE WEST. I am no fool and never had a fool's dream(some people must have as you seem to know about it).
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A research project was done onwhat types of humans were the recipients of animal attacks. When Montanans were askedthey uniformly proclaimed it was, ?The slow ones!?
Indian rupees vs American dollars??
Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2017 10:44 pm
by dbs
Umang;657084.... One can only believe this nonsense about India if one doesn't live here. They really do a good job of selling India abroad. "Booming" economy, rising "super power", all that rubbish. This golden-eyed view of India can only end when one experiences India on a daily basis for a few years. Otherwise, you shall keep dreaming these heavenly dreams of India that have no foundation in reality.[/quote] Thank God or Nothing if you do not believe in God. I did not come back for the 'booming' economy or to the 'super power' that is the best in every thing. I did come back for the rubbish and I am very happy with that.[/quote]
[Quote]There is no substitute for health and there is no substitute for breathable air. One doesn't think too often about this in the West because one always has access to breathable air. Let me say in no uncertain terms: You do not have access to breathable air in India. Let that sink in for a minute. Air is more fundamental than food, more fundamental even, than water. Clean, breathable air is a rare commodity in India. No amount of nostalgia and access to Indianness can compensate for the loss of health and well-being that comes from breathing poison.[/quote]
Absolutely correct. I am forced to visit west every year and some times twice in a year; just to breath. When I go there, I take a very very deep breath, long enough to last me a year and to boot bring some breathable air in bottles for use in an emergency. I tell you, I have to guard these very carefully otherwise the natives would murder me for these.
[Quote]The people are horrible and always trying to fleece you. Your family may not be entirely happy with your presence here. The same "friends" who say you are wasting your life there will start saying, "Why did you come back?" if (God forbid), you eventually choose to return. They shall enter in a vigorous competition with you in comparing your child to their's: which school they go to, how many marks they get, what clothes they wear, what extra-curricular activities they are engaged in. Your own dress and appearance shall be commented upon in ways that you cannot even contemplate. It does not matter how Indian you are. [/quote]
Truly horrible people but I have learned to toss ny hair with disdain and they do not dare too often. Or may be they think that I am a failed NRI(when I was one) and have not tried to fleece me as I may not be worth it. I am cleverer than these natives and they dare not try to fleece me. No body can except that camera shop on Times Square and the Hotel in Niagra falls that succeeded because I was not paying attention. But these natives are very crafty. If I did not know otherwise I would think that they are happy to see me and every time tell me to return quickly from my trips as if they miss me.
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[Quote] I implore you not to make this mistake. Come for vacations, buy a second home. Take a break if you want. But, do not dismantle your life in the West for attending to a fool's dream here. Indians will chew and spit you out like chicken bone and you shall bemoan your fate for the rest of your life.[/quote]
Absolutely, I have been on this vacation for last twelve years and intend to stick to this rule with occassional breaks to take a breath (enough to stay alive) IN THE WEST. I am no fool and never had a fool's dream(some people must have as you seem to know about it).
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A research project was done onwhat types of humans were the recipients of animal attacks. When Montanans were askedthey uniformly proclaimed it was, ?The slow ones!?