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After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 4:06 am
by cando
I am 52 and have been in US for 30+ years, came to US after graduation. I visit India very often since mother and siblings are there. Now that I cannot r2i with kids, I want to split my time in India and US once kids graduate from college (in 4 years). I think the name for it is hybrid r2i. So, I am looking at hybrid r2i when I am 56 years old (wifey will be 53). Assuming my health and finance are ok, do you think hybrid r2i will work? I'll be very happy if I can do hybrid for 10 years.

After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:21 am
by wd40
cando;679569I am 52 and have been in US for 30+ years, came to US after graduation. I visit India very often since mother and siblings are there. Now that I cannot r2i with kids, I want to split my time in India and US once kids graduate from college (in 4 years). I think the name for it is hybrid r2i. So, I am looking at hybrid r2i when I am 56 years old (wifey will be 53). Assuming my health and finance are ok, do you think hybrid r2i will work? I'll be very happy if I can do hybrid for 10 years.
If you have the will and resources, which you seem to have, it will work.

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After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:49 am
by direstraits88
cando;679569I am 52 and have been in US for 30+ years, came to US after graduation. I visit India very often since mother and siblings are there. Now that I cannot r2i with kids, I want to split my time in India and US once kids graduate from college (in 4 years). I think the name for it is hybrid r2i. So, I am looking at hybrid r2i when I am 56 years old (wifey will be 53). Assuming my health and finance are ok, do you think hybrid r2i will work? I'll be very happy if I can do hybrid for 10 years.


I've met few in their early 60s in Bangalore who split time between US and India. They own a flat in India and spend several months at a time in India. They've made friends in the apt complex in India. Some of their Indian friends visit them in US when they come to visit their kids in US.

When you are visiting family for few weeks, you are in a comfort zone knowing that you'll be leaving soon. You are a guest and being entertained by family/siblings. When you decide to live in India for several months at a time, it will be different. So it is more of a question of adaptability when money is not a factor.

I'm looking to do the same and semi-retire @ 55. I may pursue short term consulting when i'm in US.

After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:55 am
by sark
it has been said several times in this blog that India is good for retirement. we in our family are in the same age group and have the same idea - spend the harshest US winter months in India and come back in spring to avoid the harshest summer there. Festivals are also plenty during that time - Navaratri, diwali, pongal and December music season. The only problem is maintaining two residencies and extra cost - need to find long term vacation rentals there.

After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 6:21 pm
by Old-Spice2
You can do hybrid r2i as long as you can bear the 24 hrs flight between US-India. As you age may be your leg and back may start giving problem. Save enough for a massage therapist, then you will be set.

After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:22 pm
by sark
there is also this question of double taxation. once you start going to India on a regular basis, the 180 days rule goes out the window and you will be considered an ordinary resident even if you stay for only 2-3 months (this is after 5 years or so I guess) and you will have to start paying taxes to Indian Govt on your global income.

After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 7:48 pm
by puneri_punter
sark;679613there is also this question of double taxation. once you start going to India on a regular basis, the 180 days rule goes out the window and you will be considered an ordinary resident even if you stay for only 2-3 months (this is after 5 years or so I guess) and you will have to start paying taxes to Indian Govt on your global income.


This is the first time I have heard that you have to pay taxes to GOI on global income if you stay for 2-3 months. Can you please elaborate or provide links that have details? Is this new?

I am also fantasizing hybrid R2i. :-) But this new taxation thing might be a deal breaker.

After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:07 pm
by crazyforger
I wouldn't think that Hybrid R2i is good for our wellbeing long term.
I could be wrong though.

After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:32 pm
by sark
see the highlighted text below:



Before we understand who is a Non Resident Indian, lets first look at who is a Resident Indian – A person would be a RESIDENT of India for income tax purposes if


He/She is in India for 182 days or more during the financial year
OR


If he/she is in India for at least 365 days during the 4 years preceding that year AND at least 60 days in that year.
https://cleartax.in/s/nri-status-and-taxation
puneri_punter;679615This is the first time I have heard that you have to pay taxes to GOI on global income if you stay for 2-3 months. Can you please elaborate or provide links that have details? Is this new?

I am also fantasizing hybrid R2i. :-) But this new taxation thing might be a deal breaker.

After what age R2I (or hybrid) is ruled out?

Posted: Wed Aug 22, 2018 8:39 pm
by wd40
What about ddta? So if you pay tax in US you only have to pay the difference in India, isn't it. So it may not be much after all.

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