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Planning to take German citizenship and R2I

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 10:17 pm
by IndianGerman
Hello Friends,

I am not sure if I can use this forum to solve my dilemma since I am based in Germany and majority of the topics discussed here are US related.

Currently I have unlimited resident permit (gets cancels if you are away from Germany for more than 6 months) and planning to apply for the German Citizenship for myself and my daughter (4 years old) soon. After getting the German Citizenship, I may shift to any India for the next 7-8 years (personal reasons). I am not sure if this is a good decision to take German citizenship and R2I or to keep Indian citizenship.

The only dilemma I am facing is whether taking the German citizenship would help my daughter in her future.


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Planning to take German citizenship and R2I

Posted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 11:06 pm
by FlavourFlave
I really don't understand why Indians are so obsessed with getting any passport other than their own.

I can understand if you plan to live in Germany for the rest of your life and your daughter is growing up in Germany. But, that's doesn't seem to be the case.

Living in India with any passport other than an Indian one is a big headache.

You will see recent posts on this forum by anxious parents wondering if their OCI children are eligible for this or that examination in India. You don't want to be in that position.

Return to India as a full Indian citizen untainted with the stench of a foreign passport which shall become like a millstone around your neck for the rest of your life (if you plan to live in India). Come to India, get a house, get an Aadhaar card for yourself and your child and live happilly.

Get a foreign passport only if you think there is a high likelihood of return.

Planning to take German citizenship and R2I

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:27 am
by abhijeetm29
FlavourFlave;670258I really don't understand why Indians are so obsessed with getting any passport other than their own.


That is because Indian passport is useless outside India and maybe Bhutan.

To OP.
I thought this dilemma thingy was a US phenomenon. To the best of my experience, I hardly came across such cases during my stay in Europe.
The choices are binary- either you hate it or like it. There's little in the way of middle ground, as far as West European countries are concerned.

Getting German citizenship is the best thing you can give to your child. At the time, and it is only going to increase in future, when thousands are lining up outside the embassies of Western countries in Chanakyapuri, Delhi, your kid already has a solid start.

As FF suggested, you may want to read posts made by members highlighting the problems encountered due to OCI status, ineligibility for exams such as IIT-JEE and fee difference.

Planning to take German citizenship and R2I

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 12:51 am
by IndianGerman
FlavourFlave;670258I really don't understand why Indians are so obsessed with getting any passport other than their own.

I can understand if you plan to live in Germany for the rest of your life and your daughter is growing up in Germany. But, that's doesn't seem to be the case.

Living in India with any passport other than an Indian one is a big headache.

You will see recent posts on this forum by anxious parents wondering if their OCI children are eligible for this or that examination in India. You don't want to be in that position.

Return to India as a full Indian citizen untainted with the stench of a foreign passport which shall become like a millstone around your neck for the rest of your life (if you plan to live in India). Come to India, get a house, get an Aadhaar card for yourself and your child and live happilly.

Get a foreign passport only if you think there is a high likelihood of return.



@Flavourfave Thanks for your input. I will certainly consider your feedback. regarding the obsession for getting the foreign passport, in my case I can only say that I want to keep all the options ready.
Every coin has two sides and since I am already eligible for the citizenship, I want to First discuss and would also like to hear some positive sides (if any) especially from those who have considered this as an option (foreign citizenship+OCI)

Planning to take German citizenship and R2I

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 11:40 am
by kumte
My comments are based on USA. I also wanted to R2I but already had USA citizenship. I found it to be an advantage. My ES got a very good college & branch in engg based on DASA. He was also eligible for local colleges because his parents had studied 10 years in the state.

The passport now allows me & my wife to travel almost anywhere in the world without visa. India tax is anyway higher than USA. So other than filing us taxes once a year I do not face any hassles. I have aadhar & pan. I have a local job also.

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Planning to take German citizenship and R2I

Posted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 10:29 pm
by dbs
FlavourFlave;670258I....Living in India with any passport other than an Indian one is a big headache. ...Get a foreign passport only if you think there is a high likelihood of return.


I have been living in India with a foreign passport (unfortunately (!) it is not a usa one.) Facing no difficulty. OCI, Aadhaar, PAN, local DL, all in place.

Of course, don't have children of school going age.

And I have no desire to go back and live abroad but the travel is certainly much easier. A few years back, my flight to Dubai/Abudhabi got delayed and we missed the ongoing flight. I was promptly directed to the transport to the hotel. A girl wondered why I got this preference treatment when she was also travelling in Business Class. Sadly she had an Indian passport. Next morning we met at the breakfast in the same hotel and I explained to her that I did not need a visa but she did and hence the delay for her.