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Dovahkiin Sir ,

Interesting vision. Liked it. Dr. Kaku explains here the three nos of civilization and we are looking for class 3, as we ourselves are class 0. :P
You need to watch this one hour of super-duper video from Dr Kaku ( second link, below ) the same guy,... vdo is very interesting of ours most recent inventions and achievement,..
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Many says about Kaku that, I fancied him as a physicist but looks like he is trying to become a script writer for hollywood. It happens with many men of science, in youth they dream a lot and after decades they realize most of them won't be coming true. In the end they do senile talk, like this so called categories of civilization, I can't believe what he was saying, even he knew he's lying but still he gave that cock and bull story, I wonder was that to please illiterate masses or justifying wrongdoings of profiteers.

Let me put some facts my way. Every discovery of new planets and planetary system so far has proven only one thing, we are the odd one. Saying we found a planets in habitable zone ( certain distance from it's star) so that's twin Earth, is like taking any mammal for humans ( Probably that to is smaller comparison).

Humans will never be able to journeys beyond their own solar system. Distances are too great, Energy requirement can't be fulfilled further you are from sun. Sending a voyager into space is one thing and sending spaceship with humans is another. It will require hell lot of more energy to constantly maintain life sustaining environment in the ship for humans. Pluto the largest object in kaplar belt is only 0.0006 light year away from sun, and it took voyager 3 decades to reach there, and at that point solar energy were so weak that they had to shut down some systems of voyager. Leave aside much larger energy requirement of human ship. Just for point of discussion, you go beyond Kaplar belt in to the area with just dust and gases or waste material which were not used in building of our solar system. now what ? Energy from your sun has disappeared, next nearest star is 2 light years away, You took 3 decades to reach 0.0006 light years away from sun and you are out of energy. Next star is 2 light years away, you are out of energy, into hostile environment.

Only way to travel to distant galaxies MIGHT be wormholes but again we don't know ABC of them. They are created around us all the time but are too microscopic. We are not even sure what they connects, hoping that someday we will be able to create wormhole at will, large enough to let humans pass to desirable place in universe is NOTHING BUT SCIENCE FICTION.

My advice, don't run behind science fiction, salvage what you have. You are not going to get another earth like planet to destroy. Earth is your only home, even if you don't like it. Don't let profiteers fool you and irrationally consume earth's resources, if we humans see next century, most likely we will be living in much worse condition than today, thanks to these profiteers.

As far as alien life is concerned anything beyond unicellular organism would be a great discovery, anything visible with named eye would be Very Great discovery.

Big bang 13 Billion years ago, Earth formation 3.5 Billion years ago.

Do you understand what was big bang ? I hope you understand it upto some extend. Let me clarify simplest I can. There was something Billionth times smaller than an atom at infinite energy and mass. A pure speck of energy, in fact we can't be sure what it was. It exploded ( Big bang)and expanded, It expanded more in first second than following 13 Billion years. All forces, Rules of physics and time itself came into existence, after big bang. Everything generated was in perfect balanced, if gravity were any less, it would have not existed, if gravity were any more it would have collapsed immediately, matter and antimatter came into right amount i.e. for every 1 million antimatter, there were 1 million and 1 matter. so million anti matter neutralized million matter, and remaining 1 matter created everything visible in the universe. Before asks what if antimatter were more ? than we would have everything visible made up of antimatter but we would be calling them by opposite names.

Now saying that another big bang might have occurred some space apart is CHILDISH at best. Everywhere you see came into existence after big bang. Space, time, dimensions everything. I don't argue it's not possible ( Parallel universes) but when are talking about space, lets talk about space, don't confuse it with quantum physics. I know a lot about both, But that's irrelevant here.

here we are talking about lies told by Dr. Kaku, and at-least me and he know that was complete gibberish he talked about. Period. Just a little question, are you in 2015 right now or by some Yoga, Sadhna you are actually typing this from 1950's ? Because it's established by 2015 that initially there were nine planet in solar system, two planets were roaming where earth is roaming today ( Circling the sun) both were going in same direction but other planet hit earth, ninth planet destroying in process and earth barely survived. Debris from destroyed planet and debris from earth itself started circling earth, eventually due to static electricity and gravity this debris joined to make what we call moon today. Up to this is universally accepted in 2015. Now this is not sure but many scientists claims initially two different moons were formed which later may be due to collision adjoined to form single larger moon.

Now are you interested in talking astronomy or mythology and your wild fantasies.

check out this page. It has presented some good information in interesting way for people who doesn't know much about universe. I just checked it and it's correct information as far as my knowledge is concerned.

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sorry 21st picture has a mistake I didn't read it correctly, that's IC 1101 galaxy, not IC 1011. small square in 24th picture is shown bigger in 22nd picture. Actually scientists took a very small apparently totally dark spot in night sky ( it was like 1/4th of space what full moon takes in our night sky) and concentrated Hubble at that, let it takes all the light coming for that region for months and result is 22nd and 24th picture where each dot represents a galaxy not a star. debris dust/rocks doesn't behave as you want in space, they follow a certain principal. Small dust particles sticks together due to static electricity to form rocks. Now these rocks collide together to form larger rocks, they get bigger and bigger until their diameter reach to 500 miles in any direction after which gravity takes effect making them roundish. That's why all bigger object are roundish and smaller objects come in all shapes and sizes ( Obviously smaller than 500 miles )

There are 100,000,000,000 galaxies in the observable universe. The number of habitable planets in each galaxy is 10,000,000,000. So the total number of habitable planets in our universe is 100,000,000,000,0000,000,000.
And you think only earth has a chance of life? Only readers can be so stoofid . Our sun is one of 100 billion stars in our galaxy. Our galaxy is one of billions of galaxies populating the universe. It would be the height of presumption to think that we are the only living things in that enormous immensity.
Wernher von Braun
If it is just us, seems like an awful waste of space.
Contact.

The thing to keep in mind is that we're still in the very early days when it comes to the search for extraterrestrial intelligence. Saying there's a silence is a bit like if Columbus, looking to discover a new continent, only sailed 10 miles off the coast of Spain before turning back to say, 'Nothing out there!'
Seth Shostak. I am an open minded individual and realized vastness of universe very early in life as I was always fascinated by stars and science fiction. I believe universe is far too vast to declare anything conclusively but there are far more chance of having habitable planets other from our own, than being alone. Microscopic life is present at multiple places in our solar system alone. Some places might harbor macroscopic life as well i.e. Europa.

But on the other hand out of more than 4000 exoplanets discovered yet, not a single one is habitable ( At least for us).

The Mahabharata: Sexual Freedom of Women - https://satyanrtam.wordpress.com/2017/02/28/mahabharata-sexual-freedom/

Christian Brotherhood and Hindu Kinship Communities: https://satyanrtam.wordpress.com/2017/02/07/christian-brotherhood-and-hindu-kinship-communities/

Yogananda’s Distortion of the Gītā: https://satyanrtam.wordpress.com/2016/12/16/yogananda-gita/

Garbha-hatyā: Debate on Foeticide: https://satyanrtam.wordpress.com/2016/12/17/abortion/

A Critique of Vivekananda and Modern Hinduism: https://satyanrtam.wordpress.com/2016/12/20/vivekananda/

Short Story – The Brahmin, the Ghazi and the Missionary: https://satyanrtam.wordpress.com/2016/12/21/brahmin-ghazi-missionary/

Hindu Political Thought: Liberal, Conservative and Reactionary - https://satyanrtam.wordpress.com/2017/01/17/hindu-political-thought/

The Meaning of Dharma - I: https://satyanrtam.wordpress.com/2017/06/17/the-meaning-of-dharma-i/

This is not about spirituality or religion per se or strictly, but if anyone wants to get a dose of everything that connects you into a powerful mood and story, you may like this fiction book(Especially Women)

https://www.amazon.com/Fortune-Fair-Inspiring-young-womans-ebook/dp/B072FMS7SC

Religiously engaged adolescents demonstrate habits that help them get better grades, Stanford scholar finds...

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/religiously-engaged-adolescents-demonstrate-habits-help-them-get-better-grades-stanford-scholar
[quote]Study suggests that being religious helps adolescents get better grades because they are rewarded for being conscientious and cooperative. [/quote]

boca;673620Religiously engaged adolescents demonstrate habits that help them get better grades, Stanford scholar finds...

https://ed.stanford.edu/news/religiously-engaged-adolescents-demonstrate-habits-help-them-get-better-grades-stanford-scholar

Big Mistake ! Study folks are just asking to be abused in most tactless American way possible. When even talk of Love, Friendship, compassion, kindness can bring lot of abuses from them (Who would abuse them) then It's just good grades.

What in the world!!

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/dustbin-devotion-viral-video-shows-women-worshipping-a-kangaroo-shaped-trash-can/story-ymkeO1UN1FNMouH81sJE1I.html

Recently saw some videos of Dr Tyson, interesting fella. He says many things like myself, obviously he's on atheism side of fence but and interesting fella. On Some points I find my views matching his would be,

He acknowledges people's right to follow and preach religions, he's just against religions getting fake validation from pseudo science.

He said he wants to be buried when he dies and definitely 'not cremated' as he would like to return what he own to the earth, exactly my views. I once said here I would probably want to be buried deep directly in earth without any casket. Some less intelligent scientists would say that people being buried is increasing certain elements level in that soil, But I guess unless humans can explode like supernovas and spread their atoms to galaxy and beyond, this is best practice.

He said human perception would be weakest evidence in science circle, I agree But he also made joke that they take eye witness testimony as highest form of evidence in court of law (probably video was old as nowadays DNA stuff also hold lot of weight). Here I would like to add something, Our eyes deceive it on regular basis whatever we see is not exact image but our brain adds stuff in final image we perceive. Real life perceptual experiences actually are specified by synchronous redundant/complementary multisensory perceptual attributes. We make final perception based upon whatever data our brain can gather from various senses. Now sound travel considerably slower than light, for touch it would depend upon on which part it touch, would be like 30 ms difference between nose and toe. So one would perceive best when event is happening within 'Horizon of simultaneity', Which would be between 10-15 meters from observer and anything before and after that distance would give less accurate perception. So What I am trying to say is that for day to day perception, our brain is quite accurate in describing it, which would be required in court of law. Problem would occur in complex perception. For example

I saw a documentary recently about curvature of earth (thanks to lunacy off flat earth society), they tried to observe earth curvature to prove how stupid flat earth society is. They took a huge laser light, put it on shore of a large lake. They set it parallel to water surface and then they take it a boat and see where laser light lands on their boat, mark it and go about 500 feet (or meter, I don't remember) away from laser light and this time light was like feet above where it was hitting last time. Earth curvature changed it by 6 feet in mere 500 feet (or meters) and we can't perceive this, because we don't want to see it.

Then in same interview he was talking about dimensions and he went a bit beyond his own criteria and interviewer pointed that out. Whatever mistakes he made just proved something I said like 5 years ago elsewhere, that inside most astrophysicists there is a kid hidden, who just wants his science fiction fantasies to be true in some form. We can't observe almost 99.9999999% planets, but if multicelluler or advance life is present on a planet we will see it's signs. A recent study surrounding Fermi Paradox is worth reading

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So considering we are alone, It seems highly unlikely that we are without our Creator, our Lord. People who are waiting for some exceptionally obvious declaration of this, Would be very disappointed on The Judgement Day. When Signs of our Lord's work is everywhere, How could anyone be oblivious to this ? People who could believe in aliens or hope for an alien civilization, How could they Deny the Lord in sheer arrogance ? I believe God makes it clear to every human at-least once in his lifetime that There is Only one God, sole Creator and Sustainer of the Universe and what lies beyond, those who cling to that lesson would be successful. Fools might have some excuse, What excuse intelligent people would have ?

PeterGriffin;677537What in the world!!

https://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/dustbin-devotion-viral-video-shows-women-worshipping-a-kangaroo-shaped-trash-can/story-ymkeO1UN1FNMouH81sJE1I.html

Yes, I have seen this before. But I do not find this funny at all. This is result of an uneducated society that is so engulfed by blind faith and weird beliefs that anything is possible. So easy for the religious preachers and swamis to pry on and fool people. That is how religion & conversion spread in many parts of the world when most of the population was clueless and had no idea of how they came.

I still think that the God question is really not about beliefs or religion. It is about understanding the purpose. If God really had a purpose to create intelligent humans, then he would do everything in his power to not let these intelligent species end in a blip. The evolutionary biologists scale life on this planet in an interesting way - If life of earth is your arm, then human species are the finger nails and they will probably stay that long. To me, that just indicates that the creator either is concentrating on some immortal intelligent species still to come or has already given up.

Religion may have done good to humans at a personal level or up to some extent, even at the society/community level but has definitely done nothing for the planet in whole. It is a self-centered, one sided ideology supposedly meant to benefit human kind and is no different than any other ideology that promises good life.