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Does "pro-choice" or "women's right to choose" sound as euphemistic to you as it does to me? It should be called what it is - abortion or termination of pregnancy. But terminology is not the topic.

Instead, here is a definition of pro-choice from wiki:

[QUOTE]Pro-choice describes the political and ethical view that a woman should have control over her fertility and the choice to continue or terminate a pregnancy. This entails the guarantee of reproductive rights, including access to sexual education, to safe and legal abortion, and to contraception and fertility treatments. Individuals and organizations who support these positions make up the pro-choice movement.

What is your take on this issue? The topic is generally a taboo in regular gatherings or parties. It would be interesting to read your views on any or as many as possible of the following points:

a) Are you pro-choice? Or against it, also known as pro-life? Any particular reason, or is it hard to explain?

b) Should the government have a say in how accessible abortion remains to the citizens?

c) How strongly do you feel either way about it? If you are pro-choice, and law is about to be passed making significant limitations to when it can be performed, would you contribute money or time to protest the law? If pro-life, would you contribute money or time to get laws passed to make it less available?

d) Parental and spousal notification: Should girls under a certain age be required to get parental approval for getting an abortion? Should their parents be at least notified? What about spousal notification? Is it necessary?

e) Religion and abortion - The Christian view point on this topic seems to be more well-defined than that of other religions. Why so?

f) India: Are people in India more blas?bout it and don't think so much about the morality? Yes/no? Why?

A few points that came to mind, as a basic 'are you for it or against it' query is too simple for an issue so complex. Your thoughts on the topic welcome.

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MV,

Thanks for starting this topic. Can I be half and half? I mean, I favor the ideology in the definition of pro-choice, except the one marked in red.

Pro-choice describes the political and ethical view that a woman should have control over her fertility and the choice to continue or terminate a pregnancy. This entails the guarantee of reproductive rights, including access to sexual education, to safe and legal abortion, and to contraception and fertility treatments. Individuals and organizations who support these positions make up the pro-choice movement.

So, am I pro-choice? Or am I pro-life?

Irrespective of how you classify me.. I am strongly against abortion (except in few cases like rape). I oppose abortion at any stage of pregnancy.

There is a life out there. How can you kill it? It is a murder in my view point. If you prosecute a mother for killing her child, you got to prosecute a girl going for abortion. Both are sin in my opinion and both should made a crime too.

To me the biggest joke is to see men sit on a round table and discuss what women should be doing with their babies. It's a farce!

modus_vivendi;327553a) Are you pro-choice? Or against it, also known as pro-life? Any particular reason, or is it hard to explain?

I am for life. Except in difficult circumstances where it was not caused by consensual sex, violence, rape, and incest. I would also make an exception if the girl or boy are unable to support the child due to difficult circumstances provided they take the decision to abort in the first 3 months.

[quote]b) Should the government have a say in how accessible abortion remains to the citizens? [/quote]Depends on the citizens and depends on the type of government. The citizens have the right to say in a democracy. They may be right or wrong.

[quote]c) How strongly do you feel either way about it? If you are pro-choice, and law is about to be passed making significant limitations to when it can be performed, would you contribute money or time to protest the law? If pro-life, would you contribute money or time to get laws passed to make it less available? [/quote]I would contribute money and time if people abuse the limited freedom they get in the country, regardless of whether it is pro-choice or pro-life. If someone kills doctors in abortion clinic, I would put my efforts to stop that. If someone goes on having promiscuous sex in the name of pro-choice, I would not approve.

[quote]d) Parental and spousal notification: Should girls under a certain age be required to get parental approval for getting an abortion? Should their parents be at least notified? What about spousal notification? Is it necessary? [/quote]Yes, given the parents are matured to deal with the situation. If they banish the girl, I recommend the girl not divulge her sexcapade.

[quote]e) Religion and abortion - The Christian view point on this topic seems to be more well-defined than that of other religions. Why so? [/quote]Good question. It is defined in Hinduism too. Not many are aware.

[quote]f) India: Are people in India more blas?bout it and don't think so much about the morality? Yes/no? Why? [/quote]Morality becomes subjective when people define moral laws. In India, I assume it is a kichidi of several religions and there cannot be a universal law for everybody. People have morals, but it is different from one another.

oasis138;327559To me the biggest joke is to see men sit on a round table and discuss what women should be doing with their babies. It's a farce!

1. Aren't there women around that table?

2. A woman conceives a baby. But biologically it is both man and woman who are contributing to it. It is not just woman’s baby. It is mankind’s baby.

I think the way things are in the U.S. right now is appropriate. Women should have the right to get an abortion if they want to. It should be available without them having to jump through hoops to get it. Government interference in this personal decision should be minimal.

I feel people in India are a little blas?bout it. This is based on my conversations with female friends and relatives. Women in India were a bit casual about it, while (Indian) women in U.S. not so much. Maybe there are bigger problems for people in India to deal with. But, this impression could also be because when I was in India, I was much younger and not married, so not much was shared with me on this topic.

Parental and spousal notification – while the intent might be noble, I have a feeling that in reality, such requirements could make an already difficult time, even more so for the girl/woman.

(Haven't yet read above posts, just realized I didn't post my own take on it).
No other sub-forum seemed right - Family & Kids, Religion, Life in USA...)

Purujit;327564
. If someone kills doctors in abortion clinic, I would put my efforts to stop that. If someone goes on having promiscuous sex in the name of pro-choice, I would not approve.

Thanks for those words. Nice..

Purujit;327564

Good question. It is defined in Hinduism too. Not many are aware.

Link/reference please

Purujit;327564
Morality becomes subjective when people define moral laws. In India, I assume it is a kichidi of several religions and there cannot be a universal law for everybody. People have morals, but it is different from one another.

With regards to religious views on abortion, how is it khichdi in India. Which two religions give opposing viewpoints on this?

modus_vivendi;327567 while the intent might be noble, I have a feeling that in reality, such requirements could make an already difficult time, even more so for the girl/woman.

How about moral support from parents? In USA a person deals with individualism. However, in India, there is a moral support from folks... Yes, there are negative impacts of it too.

oasis138;327559To me the biggest joke is to see men sit on a round table and discuss what women should be doing with their babies. It's a farce!

"their babies"? :confused:

gwldaddu;327565 It is mankind’s baby.

Exactly. I was furious when I found out that the Gal 3 houses down the road from me had abortion without notifying me. I am part of mankind too. I wanted to put my foot down to prevent that abortion.