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India Inc to weed out job hoppers

The article says:
But while recruitment at lower levels may still be a manageable task, both the industry and recruiters are finding it tough to hire people at senior levels.

"Well, at the mid and senior levels, there are simply not enough people. In this industry which is young, attracting people with the right talent is difficult," says Karnik.

Another issue which discussed was the prospect of blacklisting serial job-hoppers.

While corporate india believes public blacklisting by making names accessible to other companies could be fraught with legal and ethical implications, recruiters believe there is another side to the coin.

Blacklisting people for job hopping - is it a solution at all......How can one even think like that...
Instead of that why doesnt India Inc try to make their jobs, work environment attractive enough. Why dont they work on creating a wealth sharing organization than trying to squeeze resources to meet extreme profitability targets.

The person who thought of blacklisting should be "let go". With such "brilliant" people at their helm coming out with such "innovative" ideas, I'm sure Indian companies will do better in the future.:rolleyes:

Its a good idea. Instead of thinking it is discriminative, think of it as a step to appreciate people who stay.

In Indian environment people hop jobs for the slightest reason. Many in the industry feel that hopping is an easy and sure shot way to get more money. Why stick it out when you can get a 30% raise just by changing your job. In the long run they are harming themselves, but who is going to tell them that ? Why would they listen ?

Product companies need their employees to stay with them longer, but product companies are few and don't have an impact on people's thinking like INFY, wipro, tcs have.

This is a problem for the industry not because it want people to stick with it but because the people don't understand the implications.

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I dont think people move just for the hike....yes it is an important reason.....but most times that happens due to disparity in payments among existing people...

Indian companies do not have an objective assessment of individual performance and contribution....instead mostly it is perception based - how your manager feels about you...

Most Indian IT cos have double standards in most employee related areas --- e.g. they are now throwing people out for fake CVs but I know most encourage their employees to present fake CVs /experiences to win customers / projects....

I think this is an absurd idea to blacklist people just for job hopping and will only lead to malpractices / corruption and kill creativity among people.

Its a "problem" for the company. Its not a "problem" for the individual.

Its always about "control" isnt it ? This is the exact outcome of a free market. Everyone is free to do what they want. Please dont lecture on ethics and crap like that. An employee can shift anytime he wants and for whatever reason he wants. Money, doesnt like the poeple, doesnt like the work, doesnt like the environment, whatever man.

If u believe in free market theory, overtime, the market will balance itself out. What is this crap about "blacklisting" people ? Once the economy becomes mature, people wont move 'coz there wont be wild swings in salaries between one company and the other and when the economic incentive is more balanced (say 6-8% difference versus 30-40%), and the growth prospects are better in the current company, people wont move.

"blacklist". "control". This is just bull man. All ideas of an old quasi-socialistic mindset.

A free market economy will NEVER work if you put any kind of controls on personal freedom.
Here is the thing. If u blacklist him and he does not want to be there, he/she will not be as productive as he could be in a place he likes (both work-wise/monetary whatever).

No amount of control will work. What is the point of having a guy around if he does not want to be there. U think he will be happy, when he knows he has the potential to get 30% more somewhere else.

U cannot have good managers by blacklisting. U have to be the BEST to retain the BEST. I mean, if he/she wants to leave, why cant the existing company
match the increase, if they really want him ? If u think he will keep playing these games, you have to go along with it as long as the market is ready to do so. It never always be an employees market. It will be an employees market as long as the economy/industry is growing. Once it matures (just as in the US), people will automatically not move, 'coz its a mature market and the market does not allow for wild swings in salary/economic incentives. Or what if its a slow/lagging economy, where jobs are scarce ?

At that point, will you put controls on the employer ? Will you blacklist an "employer" for hiring a better guy than you ? or for paying more for a more productive employee ? Even if you blacklist an employer, does he care ?

Its impossible to add controls in a free market economy. It will NEVER work.
If u care to read up a bit of Milton Friedman, you'll see why it wont work

Now, if India wants to go back to a failed socialistic policy, then of course, you can blacklist, white-list, whatever man.

And again if the industry ...the so called industry decides it...there are other ways to deal with this.....the companies can shortlist candidates who are not hoppers...

the real issue these are the same companies that entice people leaving their current jobs by dangling carrot of better pay / position / role / opportunities and so on.....the head hunters chase the targets at the behest of these companies.....

It just shows desperation and tendency to think they are in power and can do anything....