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pdev11;65872 Suppose you are going shopping and when you reach your destination one of your kids falls asleep. Just leave her in the car and ask your driver to call you when she wakes up. [/quote]
Leaving sleeping kid alone with driver... Hmmm.. I don't recommend doing that even with most trustworthy driver. Don't you follow news? One must be naive to do this.
pdev11;65872(Personal faviorate) It is close to 9 PM and you really had a tough day at the office. You are in the car heading back home, it is drizzlling outsite, traffic is haywire and it takes close to an hour to reach home. All you do is ask your driver to pull in to the closest wine store and get a pint of Chilled KF. Enjoy it on your way back home. Tell your wife that you had a long day at work....have something to eat and hit the sack. Man .... I love it.
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Love this!!! Never drank in the car but if there is a good and obedient driver (like filmy driver of rich people), I wouldn't mind doing this once in a while!!!
One of the drawback of working as an individual contributor for long is that you lose your ability to lord over people who work for you...
r2i_100;65877Leaving sleeping kid alone with driver... Hmmm.. I don't recommend doing that even with most trustworthy driver. Don't you follow news? One must be naive to do this.[/quote]
True. But if you a driver who has worked for someone for 3 yrs, who is a family man, whose friends you know..... you can do that. At the same time this guy is with me for the last 8 months and I kinda know his strenghts and weakness. you are right to some extent........but at the end of the day you've to trust some one.
When my parents go out of town they hand over the key to the maid who has been with us for more than 10 years. It only happens in India.
mn_op;65899One of the drawback of working as an individual contributor for long is that you lose your ability to lord over people who work for you...[/quote]
Most of us in this fourm come from Middle classs families. Most of us don't know how to handle domestic help ....... 'cause we havn't done this before. My wife still does not have a good grip on our maid. Handling team members is a total different thing alltogether. It doesn't matter if you are a IC or PM.
pdev11;65939True. But if you a driver who has worked for someone for 3 yrs, who is a family man, whose friends you know..... you can do that. At the same time this guy is with me for the last 8 months and I kinda know his strenghts and weakness. you are right to some extent........but at the end of the day you've to trust some one.
When my parents go out of town they hand over the key to the maid who has been with us for more than 10 years. It only happens in India.
Most of us in this fourm come from Middle classs families. Most of us don't know how to handle domestic help ....... 'cause we havn't done this before. My wife still does not have a good grip on our maid. Handling team members is a total different thing alltogether. It doesn't matter if you are a IC or PM.[/quote]
The driver may be a familyman, teetotaler, most religious guy you have ever met but still leaving an underage girl child with him is not advisable.In most cases the child abuser is a person trusted by the family and sometimes they are old enough to be the childs grandfather.I would never trust my child with the driver.I fully agree with r21 100.
r2chennai2010;65989The driver may be a familyman, teetotaler, most religious guy you have ever met but still leaving an underage girl child with him is not advisable.In most cases the child abuser is a person trusted by the family and sometimes they are old enough to be the childs grandfather.I would never trust my child with the driver.I fully agree with r21 100.[/quote]
Generally R2Is who have spent few years in US forget the ground realities in India, relying on maids, watchman, drivers etc more than they should be. Also, remember they all know R2Is have "lots of money", you have LCD TV, top class car, great food and they don't even have full 4 meals... I am not questioning the honesty but any sane person's mind may swing if he has a chance to make quick buck...
r2i_100;65995Generally R2Is who have spent few years in US forget the ground realities in India, relying on maids, watchman, drivers etc more than they should be. Also, remember they all know R2Is have "lots of money", you have LCD TV, top class car, great food and they don't even have full 4 meals... I am not questioning the honesty but any sane person's mind may swing if he has a chance to make quick buck...[/quote]
r2i_100;65877Leaving sleeping kid alone with driver... Hmmm.. I don't recommend doing that even with most trustworthy driver. Don't you follow news? One must be naive to do this.[/quote]
So does it mean you don?t send the girl child alone with the driver for being dropped at the school. Does an adult always accompany the driver/maid while being with the child?
In India, there are both types of people ? one, you could trust to your life. The other will cut your throat for money. With the 1st type of people, you just don?t buy the driver/maid. You form a bonding with their entire family. This is especially true when you know them for atleast 2 generations. No American maid/driver will shower that kind of love/affection on our kids like the Indian ones. In America, you can buy best service with money, but NOT love or affection. This is my personal experience. I have done the same thing as pdev11 ? leave my son in the car sleeping. When he wakes up, the driver would call us and bring him over to where ever we are. These are some small things that I absolutely enjoy about India.
r2chennai2010;65989The driver may be a familyman, teetotaler, most religious guy you have ever met but still leaving an underage girl child with him is not advisable.In most cases the child abuser is a person trusted by the family and sometimes they are old enough to be the childs grandfather.I would never trust my child with the driver.I fully agree with r21 100.[/quote]Going_nowhere;66000You cannot trust any outsider in India, especially the blue-collared worker. Our maid in India who had been with us (not live-in) for 12-15 years ransacked our apt one fine day 5 years ago... We lost jewelery and cash to the tune of 4 lakhs kept in the apt locker.[/quote]
Guys,
Have you seen a 5 year old swimming in a swimming pool all by him-self without any adult supervision? I mean no Life-Guard either?
Well I have, in my own apt complex. Small kids swimming in the big pool. Of course they really know to how to swim. When I saw this the first time I was really shocked. Well my point is that is how it is here in India. But can you imagine this in US? Impossible right?
Comming back our discussion.......
1. I might have left my kid in the car maybe 3 times (in the last 8 months) and happens very rarely.
2. Even if I do, I ask my driver to park close by. Remember this is India.....when you are parked on a road side you will have lot of people walking around you.
3. When my kids wake up from a nap .... they start crying if they don't see their mommy (not daddy)
4. My driver has 2 small kids of his own.
5. When he shows up for work in the morning they both run towards him calling "Madhu Uncle". Yes, I taught them to show respect no matter what they are or what they do.
6. When my eldest daughter comes back from school, she will have something to eat and goes off to the park to play with her friends. Initially she would not go alone.....but wanted one of us to be with her. Not anymore.... she goes all by herself. In our apt complex there are security guards, Plumbers, Helpers, etc..... Should I be worried about them also?
7. What about family members and close friends...can you trust them?
What you guys are talking happens more in the US than in India. Having said I am not 100% safe. No...... But I am willing to take that calculated risk. Remember No risk No reward.
I think you guys are reading way too much into this.
pdev11;66065
Have you seen a 5 year old swimming in a swimming pool all by him-self without any adult supervision? I mean no Life-Guard either?[/quote]
I'm in agreement with member pdev.
In my opinion, it is very irresponsible of the parents to leave the kid unsupervised than leaving them under supervision of trusted adults - for unsupervised kids often make bad decisions and find themselves in trouble.:rolleyes:
As for the on-going discussion, I'd like to ask a simple question to our friends who are being critical of leaving kids with a trusted car driver. The question is...How is this any different from leaving a kid at the mercy (or should I say...care?) of high school kids or neighborhood teenagers as baby-sitters - considering all the non-sense we hear about??? Mind you, I'm not suggesting that high school kids and teenagers are not trustworthy or ill-mannered. :(
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