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Posted: **Tue Apr 01, 2008 12:05 pm**

What I saw and read on news about the so called Kannada activists, tearing down posters and blocking Tamil movies from being screened in Karnataka (all with full police protection), only shows a small town mentality in a section of it's people and this I think violates the freedom of speech and the constitution of the country. Despite Bangalore becoming a high tech city, why are these people allowed to be bred in Karnataka?

With these kind of people in the mainstream population, how can one call a city like Bangalore westernized and a city like Chennai which is more tolerant to people from other states a conservative place just because a majority in Chennai don't speak Hindi?
Do you think India is culturally broken down into several pieces deep inside and is just superficially glued together?
Read a section of the news and you will see how ridiculous these people are. One of the so called leaders is claiming to include several sections of TN including Ooty into Karnataka if TN does not drop the project. Quoted from Deccan Herald http://www.deccanherald.com/Content/Apr12008/scroll2008040160500.asp?section=updatenews:
Activists of the Karnataka Rakshana Vedike (KRV) attacked nine theatres screening Tamil films in the City, in protest against the remarks made by Tamil Nadu Chief Minister M Karunanidhi on the Hogenakal issue.

Hundreds of KRV members stormed into Nataraj, Balaji, Sharada, Vinayaka, Poornima, Lavanya, Aruna, Super and Ajantha theatres, brought down banners and posters and demanded a halt to the screening of Tamil films.
The KRV attacks began at 11 in the morning and went on till 4 pm.

KRV has warned theatre owners against screening Tamil films until the Hogenakal issue is resolved. Theatres found screening Tamil films will be doing so at their own risk, the vedike said.

Kannada Chaluvali leader Vatal Nagaraj also led a protest march against Karunanidhi and PMK leader
Ramadoss at Vidhana Soudha.

Nagaraj warned TN that Karnataka would be forced to launch a massive agitation to include Ooty, Erode, Krishnagiri and Hosur into Karnataka if TN continued to exploit the situation.

For ref, Earlier thread of Cauvery Dispute:
http://www.r2iclubforums.com/clubvb/showthread.php?t=640

Posted: **Tue Apr 01, 2008 7:52 pm**

Karnataka is using this method frequently to solve its problems.

Advocates stay away from court proceedings in Hubli

Several activists of Karnataka Rakshana Vedike ransacked the office complex of the General Manager of South Western Railway.
In a well-planned attack, the activists from Belgaum and Gadag entered the office premises on Club Road, during lunch hour and ransacked it.

Attack on Tamils in Karnataka condemned

Posted: **Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:33 pm**

What is Hognekal issue?

KRV, Vatal and co seem to find one issue or other.

Added later:
TN politicians also will do something stupid in response.

Posted: **Tue Apr 01, 2008 10:58 pm**

layman;92267What is Hognekal issue?

KRV, Vatal and co seem to find one issue or other.

Dude, it is election time, cauvery is always a good leverage for protests. It is being used to political advantage on both sides of the fence.
Meantime, expect road blockage on housr road and other arterial roads going to TN by KRV. TN will have its cadres go on procession in dharmapuri and krishnagiri dists and so on......oh yeah, some buses needs to be burnt in all this.

I wont be surpised if this same news continues after another decade, may be old wine in a new bottle.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:08 am**

layman;92267
Added later:
TN politicians also will do something stupid in response.[/quote]

When was the last time you ever heard about kanada people leaving Tamil Nadu and rushing to Karnataka?

Fear driving many Tamil workers out of Bangalore

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:36 am**

Indian.Sam;92305When was the last time you ever heard about kanada people leaving Tamil Nadu and rushing to Karnataka?

Fear driving many Tamil workers out of Bangalore [/quote]

What r u trying to say here. That local Tamil dudes are so magnanimous in
their attitude to every Tom & Dick & Harry coming into Tamil Nadu ?

What about the hundresds & thousands of Tamil dudes who are in Karnataka working in IT companies who talk to their cronies in Tamil day-in & day-out in meetings & otherise and exhitbit highest level of cronyism by promoting their Tamil proteges ? Do they also belong to magnanimous group ?

I'm not generalising this to all Tamils. I'm not a bigot or linguistic.

But, dont try to hide one aspect of it and start digging into another.

All politicians are of the same calibre. People who use violence to achieve
their ends all belong to the same category. They ALL do it 'coz they have nothing else to do. So, dont make it look like some-how Tamil politicians
are some-how better off than their counter-parts in Karnataka. There are no "levels" for nuttiness. Its like infinity. Its just nuttiness.
Its not Tamil nuttiness or Kannada nuttiness.

They are ALL screw-balls. No point defending any of them. Not just politicians, even general people who join the violence, disruption of dailylife etc.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:37 am**

layman;92267What is Hognekal issue?

KRV, Vatal and co seem to find one issue or other.

Added later:
TN politicians also will do something stupid in response.[/quote]

http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200803312066.htm

Tamil Nadu is planning to dam Kaveri and put in a power plant. Karnataka
thinks its illegal. Firstly there is not govt yet, secondly they are doing it
unilaterally on shared waters.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 1:58 am**

To the OP,

What do u mean by "Is Karnataka's attitude correct?"

How did u arrive at the conclusion that the sample space of Vatal Nagraj & bunch of idiots who do something stupid is representative of the population of karnataka as a whole ?

They do stupid things day-in & day-out unrelated to tamil-nadu. What conclusions would you make of that ? They beat up KFC guys. Does that
mean every Kannadiga dude is leading his daily life beating up people ?

I dont understand why one would make this a karnataka issue or attitude.

If its a bunch of street rowdies, say it so. Dont blame it on the state
or its people.

I dont defend such activities. They should all be jail. Unfortunately they r on the streets.

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:02 am**

cadude;92313http://www.hindu.com/thehindu/holnus/000200803312066.htm

Tamil Nadu is planning to dam Kaveri and put in a power plant. Karnataka
thinks its illegal. Firstly there is not govt yet, secondly they are doing it
unilaterally on shared waters.[/quote]
Do you yourself see any logic in this strike?

When I was a child I heard a story. Once a lamb was drinking water downstream. A lion standing upstream roared at the lamb accusing the lamb of dirtying the water the lion is getting. When the lamb replied that water flows down from where the lion is standing the lion pounced on the lamb and ate it.

Water is coming down to TN from Karnataka. If TN builds a dam downstream how is it going to impact Karnataka? Can KRV and KC dictate TN on what to do with the water they get downstream? Am I missing something here?

Posted: **Wed Apr 02, 2008 2:05 am**

>>>Tamil Nadu is planning to dam Kaveri and put in a power plant. Karnataka
thinks its illegal. Firstly there is not govt yet, secondly they are doing it
unilaterally on shared waters.

Why should this be an issue for KA? At Hogenekal, Cauvery enters TN. How does it matter what they do to the river once it enters their state?

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