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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:33 pm
by Dovahkiin
I am not quoting a news But most of you must be aware of various unnecessary controversies surrounding movie 'Padmavati', there is strong protest in my state and specifically from people of my caste. I actually can't believe it, entire Padmavat or epic of Padmavati is written by a Sufi Poet Malik Muhammad Jayasi, It by no means history but rather a poem written in 16 century where symbolically Khilji represented an oppressor and Love of Padmavati and Ratansinha was shown.

According to history It's work of literature, a fiction. People getting worked up for no reason, threats are being made and movie halls screening movie might face serious vandalism at-least in my state. This is what happens when textbooks teaches literature in history section.

What say You guys ???

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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:23 pm
by layman
Dovahkiin;666097I am not quoting a news But most of you must be aware of various unnecessary controversies surrounding movie 'Padmavati', there is strong protest in my state and specifically from people of my caste. I actually can't believe it, entire Padmavat or epic of Padmavati is written by a Sufi Poet Malik Muhammad Jayasi, It by no means history but rather a poem written in 16 century where symbolically Khilji represented an oppressor and Love of Padmavati and Ratansinha was shown.

According to history It's work of literature, a fiction. People getting worked up for no reason, threats are being made and movie halls screening movie might face serious vandalism at-least in my state. This is what happens when textbooks teaches literature in history section.

What say You guys ???

Before you go there, first thing first. I haven't even heard of this Padmavati controversy. May be it is a small protest? Even 20 yrs before this, there was a marvellous book of fiction by Salman Rushdie. It is one of the best fiction I have ever read. Do you agree that is a masterpiece and there are so many morons in this world to discredit it. Even issue fatwas on Salman. I mean, come on, the author clearly says it is fiction and there is no historic figure in that novel like even the Padmavati novel.... Disgusting...

Salman should be given nobel prize for literature for Satanic verses. What say you?

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:00 am
by Dovahkiin
layman;666100 What say you?


I say, it's a needless diversion, completely incomparable and utterly irrelevant.

Actually If anyone's reputation is at stake, It would be of Khalji. He successfully defended India against Mongol invasion and possible Baghdad like massacres on numerous occasions. Contemporary kings would been utterly incompatible in defending anything leave aside Indian subcontinent. Maybe it was only useful thing he did, But many of us north Indians owe him that, who knows how many Mongols would have killed if he wasn't there to defend. Mongols massacred more than half population of Baghdad and they would have done the same here, many of us wouldn't be here.

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:18 am
by DesBhakt
layman;666100Before you go there, first thing first. I haven't even heard of this Padmavati controversy. May be it is a small protest? Even 20 yrs before this, there was a marvellous book of fiction by Salman Rushdie. It is one of the best fiction I have ever read. Do you agree that is a masterpiece and there are so many morons in this world to discredit it. Even issue fatwas on Salman. I mean, come on, the author clearly says it is fiction and there is no historic figure in that novel like even the Padmavati novel.... Disgusting...

Salman should be given nobel prize for literature for Satanic verses. What say you?


Hindu morons are trying to show they are bigger than the BIGGEST Morons of all[Salman Rushdie episode was worldwide, vs this movie protest thing is majorly happening in few places].

Salman Rushdie could have been given a nobel prize for literature for Satanic Verses & not 24 hours British Secret service protection due to the PBuh followers.

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:20 am
by paisawala_sadhu
DesBhakt;666106Hindu morons are trying to show they are bigger than the BIGGEST Morons of al


Got it, all people who see Padmavati are MORONS as well. Just stay away from this moronic film.

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:20 am
by VS007
Dovahkiin;666103
Actually If anyone's reputation is at stake, It would be of Khalji. He successfully defended India against Mongol invasion and possible Baghdad like massacres on numerous occasions. Contemporary kings would been utterly incompatible in defending anything leave aside Indian subcontinent. Maybe it was only useful thing he did, But many of us north Indians owe him that, who knows how many Mongols would have killed if he wasn't there to defend. Mongols massacred more than half population of Baghdad and they would have done the same here, many of us wouldn't be here.

Why blame just the mongols? How are they any different from other marauders like the aryans,hunas, arabs, turks, afghans,british? All were wandering looters and terrorists!

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 11:49 am
by Dovahkiin
VS007;666125Why blame just the mongols? How are they any different from other marauders like the aryans,hunas, arabs, turks, afghans,british? All were wandering looters and terrorists!


Everyone had their way of dealing with losing sides, Aryan simply destroyed entire civilizations and possibly more then 90% of indigenous population of areas they conquered, in my opinion tribal people living in forests on Arawali mountains were original inhabitants of this region, areas where there was no place to take shelter they were wiped out. Arabs were relatively quite tolerant of local populous as first Arab (Mohammad Bin Quasim) to win Sindh region in 712 AD, decreed that Pandits (read Hindus as their was no general term those day) are Dhimmis (people of the book) and they would contribute tax to Caliphate, other than that do not bother them and grant them same status as Jews. It's still readable on inscriptions on mosque he built in Sindh (First mosque built in North India), after that he left and region was left in hands of local rulers, they just paid tax to Caliphate (which was probably least bad thing anyone could have done to a conquered area). Later Muslim invaders weren't Arabs but of mixed ancestry or Turks or Mongol-Turks, they wanted to rule over India. Britishers just colonized India, destroyed Indian economical system and diverted wealth to kingdom. Mongols were different in the way that they just wanted to kill, rape and loot. Afghan invasions were never that big and Hari singh Nalwa also committed countless atrocities on Afghan people.

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:39 pm
by Dovahkiin
Currently state government has sent a bill 'Rajasthan religious freedom act, 2008' to president for approval after High court asked what's government's stand on religious conversion (What would require conversion to be official) while hearing a case which was filed by parents/ brother of a girl who converted to Islam and married her school time boyfriend, high court send girl with her husband as she was sane adult exercising her right to freedom of religion and freedom to chose a life partner.

Now this act was actually drafted in 2006 and never been able to get past governor as 'Freedom' word could easily be replaced with 'persecution'. Constitution guarantees freedom of practicing and propagating religion But in this act people could get 3 years jail term for converting anyone, 5 years jail term for converting women/SC-ST people/Children, cancellation of license of any organization propagating their religion, one must get permission from district collector before conversion or else person will be fined for exercising his constitutional right of freedom of religion, However None of this applies if anyone convert from any other religion to Hinduism as It's 'Ghar vapasi'.

Now such draconian persecution has no place in a secular democratic country, we are not just going backwards we are running to self annihilation. What's next ? Getting permission from DM before eating non vegetarian food ??? I wonder would it be thrown in dustbin where it belongs ? What about constitutional rights of people ? President is supposed to uphold constitution at all costs.

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:21 pm
by Dovahkiin
Another rather minute observation which I had while reading user comments on many sites about 'no boundaries proposal'. I saw many proponents of atheism vocally being in favor of this proposal (on web, not on this board yet), It made me all grins. I mean would an atheist can remain an atheist if he believes in that ? After all they don't believe in God as in their words God can't be observed, So How can they use a theory to strengthen their believe in atheism which itself can't be observed and all scientific evidence contradicts this proposal. I am no physicist But I too observed many MAJOR discrepancies like we can factually examine universe is expanding (against the proposal), We can actually look into past of universe at least as far back as CMB, presence of singularities at core of black holes also contradicts possibility of having no singularity in imaginary time proposed by this theory.

By all means no boundaries proposal is an elaborate science fiction ruse good enough to fool common folks But it's right there with multiverse and flat earth theory as far as respectable physicists are concerned.

So How could atheists believe in it when they don't believe in God ? This theory or it's effects can't be observed and never be able to observed (even if it were true, which it is not), in fact all scientific observations so far contradicts it. So atheists believing in this proposal just so they can deny existence of God, would be oxymoron to put it mildly.

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Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 8:12 pm
by DesBhakt
paisawala_sadhu;666124Got it, all people who see Padmavati are MORONS as well. Just stay away from this moronic film.


Not sure how you came to this conclusion.