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nelly
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Post by nelly »

All,
I am curious what your thoughts are on how "INDIANS" (for lack of a better word -- meaning people living in India) perceive you when you return to India after being an NRI for several year?

While it's true that a lot of people return for very many reasons (including losing a job etc) --> how are you received/perceived or understood in India??

Are you looked at as you are a

1) Loser -- since you couldn't figure out how to stay in the US or abroad(where ever u are from)

2) Patriot -- wow, you left all the money, fame, status (as NRI) and return to be home

3) Who cares you were ever an NRI?

4) Saala NRI!!

????

I am just curious to hear from people that have already R2I'ed to hear their views on how people perceive you? This may or may not be important, I just recently had an experience that got me wondering about this.

Thanks for any insight.
babu_babu
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Post by babu_babu »

nelly;48224All,
I am curious what your thoughts are on how "INDIANS" (for lack of a better word -- meaning people living in India) perceive you when you return to India after being an NRI for several year?

While it's true that a lot of people return for very many reasons (including losing a job etc) --> how are you received/perceived or understood in India??

Are you looked at as you are a

1) Loser -- since you couldn't figure out how to stay in the US or abroad(where ever u are from)

>>It happens, when the guy takes up job again in india, instead of retiring/ starting a business/taking care of his family profession.
>>

2) Patriot -- wow, you left all the money, fame, status (as NRI) and return to be home
>>
If the guy retires,then yes.
>>

3) Who cares you were ever an NRI?
>>
If the guy doesn't show up wealth, no one (including family/relatives) cares.
>>

4) Saala NRI!!
>>
Yes, if the guy takes up job.
>>

????

I am just curious to hear from people that have already R2I'ed to hear their views on how people perceive you? This may or may not be important, I just recently had an experience that got me wondering about this.

Thanks for any insight.[/quote]

PS: It is my opinion derived from experience of some R2Iers.
SSVP
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Post by SSVP »

My answer to this depends on people who have stayed in US FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

>>1) Loser -- since you couldn't figure out how to stay in the US or abroad
>>(where ever u are from)

NRI who returns is not a LOSER and will come only for his GOOD.

>>2) Patriot -- wow, you left all the money, fame, status (as NRI) and return to >>be home

NRI' are not doing any favour by returning to INDIA.Its up to them to judge themselves.

3) Who cares you were ever an NRI?

4) Saala NRI!!
For 3 &4th,
This one if NRI's respect otthers and do not show off.
Lots of NRI'S after returning show OFF .

They even think and act as if the other guy opposite to them is fool.I myself experienced when I was in Ind AND talking to NRI (10 yrs in US)and said to myself -"Inka {NRI's ka )Bhar gaya".They just dont listen to anyone except where "money " is attached(boss,real estate).

To put in simple words.
"What I know is excellent and what u know is CRAP" attitude NRI's come under this category.

>>I just recently had an experience that got me wondering about this.

Just think on the other side.You tell only one side of story just to feel good.Give a minute to think What made the other person to act like that.

>>I am curious what your thoughts are on how "INDIANS" (for lack of a better >>word -- meaning people living in India) perceive you when you return to >>India after being an NRI for several year?

Read above answer


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Post by DosaiLvr »

3) Who cares you were ever an NRI?

In general someone who has never known you (and is not a confused teenager or person belonging to a lower rung in society) will not care one way or another

2) Patriot -- wow, you left all the money, fame, status (as NRI) and return to be home

Only if you are as rich as Lakshmi (I mean Mittal) or are a Sunita Astronaut.

4) Saala NRI!!

Deserves it, and rightfully so, if one acts like one!

Probably prevalent in professional settings and offices.

I suspect there exists prejudices which acts as a hinderance to a NRI techie's transition in the early R2I'd life

1) Loser -- since you couldn't figure out how to stay in the US or abroad(where ever u are from)

This would probably be restricted to friends and relatives who are either jealous or are miffed by the NRI (or his family) for "showing off" before he left India.
nelly
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Post by nelly »

babuvrr;482361) Loser -- since you couldn't figure out how to stay in the US or abroad(where ever u are from)

>>It happens, when the guy takes up job again in india, instead of retiring/ starting a business/taking care of his family profession.
>.[/quote]

Babuvrr,
Your response makes it sound like a huge portion of us (that are trying to get jobs ) are in fact losers in the eyes of Indians (non-NRI's).

Hmm.....i am very curious about how to deal with this now.....I am not a show off kind of guy -- even here in US (lived here for 14 years) -- but i can't help but think that any NRI (show off or non-show off types) get instantaneously identified and stamped as an NRI by every auto fellow, taxi driver or bus wala. Is this not true?

Yikes -- i for one know that I am not a loser -- what do I do to be not considered one -- this is such a curious problem -- i am not sure what to do (if there is anything i can do, that is) :confused:

At some level, I don't really care what others think -- but in dealing with this at work, I have to not only get over this, but in fact deal with this at a cultural level.
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Post by nelly »

SSVP;48239My answer to this depends on people who have stayed in US FOR SEVERAL YEARS.

>>1) Loser -- since you couldn't figure out how to stay in the US or abroad
>>(where ever u are from)

NRI who returns is not a LOSER and will come only for his GOOD.

>>2) Patriot -- wow, you left all the money, fame, status (as NRI) and return to >>be home

NRI' are not doing any favour by returning to INDIA.Its up to them to judge themselves.


They even think and act as if the other guy opposite to them is fool.I myself experienced when I was in Ind AND talking to NRI (10 yrs in US)and said to myself -"Inka {NRI's ka )Bhar gaya".They just dont listen to anyone except where "money " is attached(boss,real estate).

To put in simple words.
"What I know is excellent and what u know is CRAP" attitude NRI's come under this category.

>>I just recently had an experience that got me wondering about this.

Just think on the other side.You tell only one side of story just to feel good.Give a minute to think What made the other person to act like that.

[/quote]

SSVP, you are certainly answering how NRI's feel or would like to feel about R2I -- but that is not my question -- my question is how do indians (who have not lived abroad but may have visited or not) feel, react and perceive NRI's to be. Your quote below summarises your opinions for sure :)

[quote]
-"Inka {NRI's ka )Bhar gaya".
[/quote]
Not sure you were able to see the other POV either... :)


We can't really argue about specific incidences but in general I am very interested in the responses to this question that may be a cultural divide.
SSVP
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Post by SSVP »

nelly;48274SSVP, you are certainly answering how NRI's feel or would like to feel about R2I -- but that is not my question -- my question is how do indians (who have not lived abroad but may have visited or not) feel, react and perceive NRI's to be. Your quote below summarises your opinions for sure :)


Not sure you were able to see the other POV either... :)


We can't really argue about specific incidences but in general I am very interested in the responses to this question that may be a cultural divide.[/quote]

For all the questions you asked,People (Our INDIANS )will feel the way NRI's act .
If NRI's ACT smart - (INDIANS percieve you as Saala NRI or worse than that) ?
If NRI's COME to IND, did not want to be US Citizen,want to remain IND - INDIANS percieve u as Patriot.

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yessireebob
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Post by yessireebob »

I dont think people care or to be honext know unless you tell them these days.
Infact the one who look at price tags and gets shocked are more likely to be NRI's (-;)

In anycase I dont see this patriot reference. Does that mean that people here who work for Desi companies are more patriotic than those who work for MNC's ?
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Post by Desi_by_Nature »

Who cares what other people think? Everyone has their own perception of you. Everyone will judge you differently.

Even among my own set of close friends in India opinions are divided - half of them tell me to come back, quoting that opportunities are great in India for my skills, it will be nice to have me back there etc.
The other half tell me to stay put - "why do you want to come back to this godforsaken country?".

Now you can imagine if I R2I, how my own friends whom i've known for 10-20 years will judge my decision so contrastingly.

Now about strangers:
- someone who is sick of India, his first reaction will be "why the heck?". Someone who loves being in India will probably take it in a positive way.
- someone who has never stepped out of India, and thinks that everything about America is as beautiful and romantic like Subhash Ghai shows in his mega blockbuster movies will keep wondering why I left all those opportunities to run wild and free in picturesque places, singing songs with pretty girls or driving a Corvette with a blonde babe by my side.
Whereas someone who has travelled the world, been places, and maybe even realized the challenges of living as a foriegner in other places will probably have a better idea why I R2Ied.
- If you move to Whitefield in Bangalore, your neighbors won't even be curious why you R2Ied (because 90% of them will be R2Iers too). If you move to Chandni Chowk in Delhi, yeah you bet your neighbors will be curious and you might even be food for gossip.


You can't have any control over what other people think about you or how they judge you, but one thing you do have control over is what kind of people you congregate with.
I believe that the most important thing post-R2I is to keep the right company.

If you have people constantly asking you why your returned back - or telling you that you made a bad decision, you will start thinking about making use of your Re-entry permit and going back to the US - and maybe small annoyances like water shortages, power outages, traffic etc. will start getting amplified in your mind until you are convinced that you made a bad decision. Whereas if your surround yourself with positive people - friends and family who are happy to have you back and smart, educated people who are optimistic about India's continued economic growth - you will probably be happy with your R2I decision.
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Post by taan ta taan »

Desi by nature

"If you have people constantly asking you why your returned back - or telling you that you made a bad decision, you will start thinking about making use of your Re-entry permit and going back to the US - and maybe small annoyances like water shortages, power outages, traffic etc. will start getting amplified in your mind until you are convinced that you made a bad decision. Whereas if your surround yourself with positive people - friends and family who are happy to have you back and smart, educated people who are optimistic about India's continued economic growth - you will probably be happy with your R2I decision."

:emthup:
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