Lingering thoughts/deep thoughts thread for Magenta folks

RRS · Post by **RRS** » Thu May 06, 2010 11:02 pm

Hi gals,

Let us use this thread to discuss the thoughts that creep in a movement and disappear, the thoughts that linger and linger and the thoughts that need some validation from other humans.

This is not just a banter thread where one liner quip would suffice but this thread is for any random topic which might not garner any attention from other folks but as a poster, you thought about it for a minute or for a significant part of your life and continue to do so.

I will start with one that I have asked elsewhere.

RRS · Post by **RRS** » Thu May 06, 2010 11:11 pm

Nature versus nurture: I have participated in main forum plenty of times in the past with several links going as far as evolution and as recent as to show Jews prominence in Nobel with no conclusive overwhelming evidence from the either camps but I have settled for the middle ground of importance of nurture complemented with nature and viceversa.

This is of a different flavor. Do you think the love, affection or sense of duty you feel towards your offspring is biological or is due to the nurture you do till they are on their own ?

anwesha · Post by **anwesha** » Fri May 07, 2010 6:05 am

RaReSha3;286154Nature versus nurture: I have participated in main forum plenty of times in the past with several links going as far as evolution and as recent as to show Jews prominence in Nobel with no conclusive overwhelming evidence from the either camps but I have settled for the middle ground of importance of nurture complemented with nature and viceversa.

This is of a different flavor. Do you think the love, affection or sense of duty you feel towards your offspring is biological or is due to the nurture you do till they are on their own ?

I think, love & affection are innate. Whereas sense of duty is nurture.

anwesha · Post by **anwesha** » Fri May 07, 2010 10:30 pm

RRS, don't thank me for the above post. I blurted out something, without any basis. What do you think is innate/learned in this context? BTW, other magentas do not have lingering/deep thoughts?

RRS · Post by **RRS** » Fri May 07, 2010 10:55 pm

I don't know why my hand inadvertently goes to 'thanks' button these days : ), it might soon exceed my post count BTW I exceeded the 1K mark in giving : ). Will try to stop getting carried away for thanking a post where I liked even one thought or a sentence.

No, I thanked you for acknowledging the post as I was feeling lonely after opening the thread with no takers : )

I think the love and affection need not necessarily be blood related but cannot explain other than giving some book examples or real life examples. Have seen several examples in real life where the childless couple love other's kids so much and in fiction where an adopted kid has more affection from parents than their biological child like Jaya/AB feel towards SRK than Hrithik in K3G where the first one filled their void. Even with my kids, the days when I have to work hard for them, I feel more affinity towards them than when I have nothing much to do. Is it the feeling of our presence having some importance, may be.

Another thought that comes is are ladies suitable for leadership role or is society ready to apply same rules for both gender? Not a middle management role.. but a real top leadership role where one's decision can make or break the company? I will expand on this as I think more about it. The backdrop is tale of two ladies in my area; Meg Whitman and Carly Fiorina who were both CEOs in fortune 500 companies before jumping to the political scene.

maya1 · Post by **maya1** » Sat May 08, 2010 12:46 am

why is it that women decide to be in abusive marriage for the sake of children? i mean i can understand to certain extent that dependent or uneducated women decides to that...as they have no means to come out of the relationship but independent ,well educated women take shit from husband just for the children? don't they understand that they are doing more harm to their kids? of course they do..sometime i feel they use their children to cover up for their own inadequacies..poor children i think they get abused by both parents somehow.
I mean i understand the complexities of the situation but shouldn't one draw a line somewhere?
I tell you my moms maid has more guts to beat hell out of her husband who was abusive...These so called poor class women are more liberated then people like us..
and why society looks down only on women who leaves husband in India while man enjoys life of a dream in India??? when this is going to change.
why certain relationships are doomed from the start? why cant anybody do anything about it? why do we hesitate to take a stance when it comes to other peoples life..is it because we are taught from the childhood to mind our own business..

flick · Post by **flick** » Sat May 08, 2010 1:03 am

My thoughts on this :
Being educated is one thing , having guts to tackle an abusive husband is totally a different thing . It takes will power , confidence in yourself and a "I don't care what the rest of the world thinks" attitude to be able to walk out of the relationship and lead a life of their own.

maya1;286645why is it that women decide to be in abusive marriage for the sake of children? i mean i can understand to certain extent that dependent or uneducated women decides to that...as they have no means to come out of the relationship but independent ,well educated women take shit from husband just for the children? don't they understand that they are doing more harm to their kids? of course they do..sometime i feel they use their children to cover up for their own inadequacies..poor children i think they get abused by both parents somehow.
I mean i understand the complexities of the situation but shouldn't one draw a line somewhere?
I tell you my moms maid has more guts to beat hell out of her husband who was abusive...These so called poor class women are more liberated then people like us..
and why society looks down only on women who leaves husband in India while man enjoys life of a dream in India??? when this is going to change.
why certain relationships are doomed from the start? why cant anybody do anything about it? why do we hesitate to take a stance when it comes to other peoples life..is it because we are taught from the childhood to mind our own business..

desi_mom · Post by **desi_mom** » Sat May 08, 2010 7:45 am

RaReSha3;286154
This is of a different flavor. Do you think the love, affection or sense of duty you feel towards your offspring is biological or is due to the nurture you do till they are on their own ?

RRS - hmmm, deep thoughts! Even though the biological bond is the root cause of the love, affection for a parent towards their offspring, it grows further only by all the nurture you do to the offspring. And the love the offspring feels for you is definitely based on the nurture.

desi_mom · Post by **desi_mom** » Sat May 08, 2010 7:52 am

I was watching on the news today about Anil and Mukesh Ambani. My deep thought for the day is why do brothers, sisters who lived together and most definitely loved, sacrificed and supported each other so much all through the years grow up into such bitter enemies?

Mumbai_2009 · Post by **Mumbai_2009** » Sat May 08, 2010 1:21 pm

RaReSha3;286584I don't know why my hand inadvertently goes to 'thanks' button these days : ), it might soon exceed my post count BTW I exceeded the 1K mark in giving : ). Will try to stop getting carried away for thanking a post where I liked even one thought or a sentence.

It takes a lot to give than to take. Thank you!