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GutsyGibbon
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Stray Dog problem, is there a solution?

Post by GutsyGibbon »

Many cases of dog bites are being reported these days. Many have been tragic, and very upsetting. Last year my father was bitten by a stray dog during his morning walk. His solution was to carry a stick with him. Obviously this is not a solution that suits all. Especially the kids.

So, what has gone wrong in the recent years that the dog bites have increased.


  • Is the city getting cleaner, resulting in food scarcity that is driving the dogs nuts?
  • Have the authourities done a worse job leading to the spread of rabies?
  • Yesterday, I saw that trapping of dogs has stopped as there is no space in the dog shelters. Do we really need dog shelters when we do not have decent shelters for poor people? I think people are pretending too hard to care for the animals.
  • Is trapping of dogs the long term solution? I think we need to educate people such that they get their dogs neutered.


http://www.hindu.com/2007/03/03/stories/2007030323030300.htm
DoctorJ
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I'm glad somebody initiated this topic for discussion here...I?m a Big Time animal lover and as loyal and faithful to dog's needs as dogs are known to be to mankind. I say this after successfully :emsmile: rearing 3 great (everybody in the neighborhood would still vouch for it ? after the last one died a natural death more than a decade back) dogs and caring for them. None of the 3 dogs ever (mark my word ? ever) attacked or used their fangs (canines) on anybody although they did their fair share of barking to scare or frighten unwanted visitors around. Some of the old timers in the locality will surely remember those great dogs that seemed to take their owner for a walk with the chain on his neck (never had a reason to leash them). So, I'd definitely want to scribble a word or two on this topic.

To start with, I'd like to convey my deep-heartfelt sympathies to your father. Having one aging father myself who risks taking a walk or two at odd hours of day and night, I can very well relate to your plight ? not to mention to that of your father?s, ladies wearing sarees or small kids who have a hard time running for their lives with these rogue dogs that seem to be roaming-ruling the streets of Bangalore (not very sure of other places ? I?ve never had much of such experiences during my short (not more than a year) stay in N.Delhi, Bombay (of yesteryears), Pune, Hyderabad-Secundrabad or even Chennai (although never had a reason to live).

That said, :emsmileo: I?ve never been a proponent of stray dogs or beggars on the streets of any darned place on this earth. It?s just not a place for them ? specially when they are unruly and harmful to the general public. So, IMHO the dogs need to be caught for sure and freed in some far of jungles to fend for and survive independently by themselves. Every other dog that is domesticated should be a sole responsibility of it?s owner ? duly licensed and cared for indoors or on leash when outside. The owner should be help responsible for any atrocious acts of such licensed animals ? very much like how it is in the western world.

Now, a word for the other kind of dog or animal lovers :emangry: (I?d like to call them the fakes ? no offense intended whatsoever) who seem to make the lives of everybody a living misery by their protests and other antics. If they are so very concerned about these dogs, I wonder if anybody is stopping them from pitching in to adopt a couple of them each to care for. I?ll not buy their argument otherwise?If Maneka Gandhi or her followers have issues, I?d like to know how many they are caring for on their nickel within their homes. My next question would be how much they are contributing from their pocket for the care of such beasts ? not to mention why they?s expect the administration to care for them on our tax money.

On a humorous note though :emwink:, I?ve wondered many a times as to why some smart guy hasn?t thought of venturing into the lucrative business of:
1. Contracting with the city administration to make good money by catching these rowdy dogs.
2. Entering in to a second contract with the city administration to make good money by accepting to take care of these dogs after catching. (savings to the administration in terms of shelter, medication, risk of spreading rabies to other dogs ? not to mention culling and elimination of dead carcasses).
3. Finally, selling these dogs to customers in Korea (where I get to understand dogs are considered a delicacy) and making big money after checking for rabies and shipping them over.
4. It would be decent revenue to the city administration if they were to do it by themselves. The money could be used generating more employment for say ?Animal Cops? or something.

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sohu
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Post by sohu »

I absolutely hate stray animals on the roads. I am a Hindu but I would be very happy if all the cows roaming the streets are caught and eliminated. If the animal belongs to someone then that person should be responsible for keeping these animals indoors and taking care of them.

Personally know few people who have been injured in accidents becoz of stray animals. Also had heard of a bus toppling over becoz a cow suddenly came in front of it. IIRC 22 people were dead in that accident.
DoctorJ
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Deccan Herald happens to be one of the leading news papers in circulation within Karnataka. And, they carry this interesting incident of the judiciary at work...on this topic as their headline news.


Check the link below to follow Division Bench of Chief Justice Mr.Cyriac Joseph and Justice Mr.B.S.Patil's observations and his directive to Bangalore Mahanagara Palike, the erstwhile corporation of the city. I'm vindicated in my stance...:emteeth:

http://www.deccanherald.com/deccanherald/mar92007/update181620200739.asp

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Old-Spice2
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Post by Old-Spice2 »

Stray cattle and dogs should be eliminated. They are a nuisance and dangerous for road users. If Maneka protests, Corporation should leave 5-6 stray dogs near her house, so they bark whole night and keep her awake.
DoctorJ
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sohu, Old-Spice2,

I'm in complete agreement....

As things stand, it's pure chaos as cars, trucks, buses, motorcycles, taxis, rickshaws, tractors, bullock-carts and other vehicles are driven with total disregard to traffic rules and regulations. Now, add to it the new-sense of stray cows, dogs, buffalos, donkeys, beggars and senseless pedestrians...and it's complete recipe for total pandemonium.

It’s high time responsible people woke up and did something about it.

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MeraNaseebR2I;11822
This is insensitive. Your suggestion is similar to saying all cows with "mad cow" disease or "foot and mouth" disease should be sent to the western world after treating them of those diseases.


Export quality meat has stringent quality criteria. If India wants to build a business in exporting Dog meat - careful thought has to be given for animal rearing, meat procurement, meat processing, packaging etc. its an industry in itself.
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Woo...Woooo...Easy now...calm down.
I'm pretty sure you missed my point completely. For one, the line item was meant to be taken on a humorous note - for I did not mean for the readers to take it seriously. Secondly, if somebody did take my humorous note seriously, I was trying to imply the same thing you say above - basically, put to rest (or isolate) any disease carrying animal before considering anything for human consumption or letting them free in the wild to fend for themselves.

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MeraNaseebR2I;11837
DJ

It would be better if you edited your post and took out item #3

enjoy your sunday.
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It was a sincere attempt to portray the situation with a cynical view. Would it make more sense if I were to replace line item #3 with...

  • Enter into a contract with the zoos to make money by supplying meat to the wild animals in captivity.
Let me know your thoughts...

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DoctorJ
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To help those who have not been following the recent spurt of stray dog menace in and around Bangalore where at least a couple of kids were badly mulled to death, a flock of sheep were attacked and literally massacred and a number of people were attached by these monstrous dogs, the city administration has been forced to take some stringent action against the unruly canines and claim to have spent a lot of tax-payers money to put an end to the menace. Some are captured below:
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  • They are supposed to have spent a lot of money towards catching these stray dogs in various localities of the city. Special squads have been formed and professional help has been used.
  • They are supposed to have spent a lot of money to aid voluntary organizations treat, care for and shelter the caught dogs.
  • They are supposed to have spent a lot of money to eliminate these dogs by killing them.
  • Finally, they are supposed to have had problems in eliminating the carcasses and are supposed to have paid out of their nose for the same.[/LIST]

    My write-up earlier is not only an attempt to share my thoughts but also a sincere attempt to make a mockery of the situation. Hence the humorous ideas of suggesting ways to make money from the seemingly insensitive act and making fun of the attempts by administration to justify spending heap loads of tax-payer’s money (frankly, I think a lot of corrupt officials are pocketing money in this ordeal) - not to mention the stubborn stance of some self proclaimed (miserable in my opinion) animal rights activists.

    On an unfortunate side note, some of us can relate to a few very good experiences with stray dogs that at some point in time or other in the past and feel a lot of sympathy for those at the receiving end – but we are forced to ingest this issue as a bitter pill for the betterment of the public in general.

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    DoctorJ
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    I've always been credited with making sincere efforts to create a win-win or win-all situation for all the parties or stake-holders in conflict. And, with this situation, I could not help to think of a humorous way out...
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  • The general public get's what they want - Bangalore and other such cities are rid of stray dog (animal) menace.
  • The city administration get's what they want by passing the buck (I mean responsibility) and criticism.
  • A shrewd businessman get's what he wants - make good money by little or no investment.
  • The self proclaimed animal rights activists don't get the wind - so don't get indulged (sure hope so).
  • Finally, a cleaner and more presentable city for the inhibitants and a show-case for the global community.[/LIST]I'll stop here and let you guys ponder over things...


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