Shame on Indian Secularism-Ethnic Cleansing of Pundits

tejasvee · Post by **tejasvee** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 10:32 pm

This is a film about the ethnic cleansing of Hindu Pandits from the Kashmir Valley by Muslims. Since the onset of the Islamic separatist movement in 1990, 500,000 families have been internally displaced. This figure represents more than 90 percent of the original Hindu population in the Kashmir valley. The Pandits have been the primary targets of Pakistan-trained killers in the war against the Indian government.

The persecution and systematic destruction of Hindu culture in Kashmir follows a similar pattern to the treatment of Hindus meted out to Hindus in Pakistan after the partition, and during the 1971 genocide in Bangladesh in which 3 million people were killed and 10 million forced to flee to India.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=_oSIQRF_AHM
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Dz1V3D-uOok

What a shame on the modern 'secular' India? It has been 18 years and still these Hindu Pundits are rotting in the camps as refugees in their own country! Unless issues like this are addressed, no one will ever care for India handling 'world' crisis like Darfur or Myanmar.

anand1 · Post by **anand1** » Sat Oct 27, 2007 11:55 pm

tejasvee, thanks for the thread. Definitely time to take a break from Gujarat riots of 2002 and take a look at other most ignored "step child" issues such as Ethnic cleaning of Pundits.

Jaggudada · Post by **Jaggudada** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:09 am

anand1;54014tejasvee, thanks for the thread. Definitely time to take a break from Gujarat riots of 2002 and take a look at other most ignored "step child" issues such as Ethnic cleaning of Pundits.

I agree and thanks for starting a thread. We need to discuss all ill-deeds with the same vigor to maintain some credibility and feeling of fairness within masses.

tejasvee · Post by **tejasvee** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 12:38 am

Jaggudada;54018We need to discuss all ill-deeds with the same vigor to maintain some credibility and feeling of fairness within masses.[/quote]

I doubt you will see any 'vigor' here. It is all about political mileage.

Who really cares about a half a million upper caste Hindu refugees who have no vote bank? Let them rot in the shanty town camps.

If you see the video carefully, you will see that the darling of western media recently, Benazir Bhutto inciting Kashmiris, which directly resulted in the ethnic cleansing of a half a million Hindus from Kashmir. A woman herself, she incited so much hatred that thousands of innocent women in India paid the price in the means of their body and life.

No you won't see any Tehalka or 'sickular' media 'exposing' such open inciting which resulted in Hindu women being raped and cut into pieces before being thrown into rivers in Kashmir. Hey we are one-dimensionally Secular :emsmilep:

vij_mahesh · Post by **vij_mahesh** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:10 am

tejasvee;54024I doubt you will see any 'vigor' here. It is all about political mileage.

No you won't see any Tehalka or 'sickular' media 'exposing' such open inciting which resulted in Hindu women being raped and cut into pieces before being thrown into rivers in Kashmir. Hey we are one-dimensionally Secular :emsmilep:[/quote]

Tejasvee, you have righly defined 'secularism' in India. Even asking 'uniform civil code' and removing article 370 (special status to J&K) is branded 'communal' right away.:emsad:

Tweedledee · Post by **Tweedledee** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 2:37 pm

the fault lies with hinduism not being a fanatical violent religion like islam. hindus are considered soft targets hence this ethnic cleansing. if what happened in mumbai 1993 and guj 2002 had been done in kashmir on a bigger scale, people would have known not to mess with hindus.

punjabi · Post by **punjabi** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 3:37 pm

The only solution to prevent killing of hindus in kasmir,pak,bangladesh etc is to turn stronger, powerful and a force to reckon with. Only VHP and RSS has the power to do that. Nobody messes with powerful but everybody suppresses weak. Look at how America dictates the world.
Alas ruling commies and seculars will always turn the other cheek to muslims and bend over backwards.

cyberabadi · Post by **cyberabadi** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:13 pm

The YouTube Video's posted by Tejasvee cover a lot.

INdian Politics has been built on 'Minority Appeasement'. Agree! that its all about Political Mileage.. India has turned a blind eye to the fate of Hindus in Kashmir and also cross-border fundamentalism. As long as we have IC 370, and other appeasement modes to please the Indian Minority for their votes, we would continue seeing this. I wonder what happened to Indian Media and even the political parties internal media in covering this nationally.

Bobus · Post by **Bobus** » Sun Oct 28, 2007 9:40 pm

Some questions to those who seem very knowledgeable about the issue and related issues and have opined in this thread.

(a) Are Pandits unable to return to Kashmir because the Govt is not doing enough to provide security to them in Kashmir, even though it is capable of providing security? Or is it the case that Govt has spent a lot of resources toward security in Kashmir, and has still not been able to provide adequate security to enable Pandits to return and live safely?

(b) Are Pandits who live in Jammu, Delhi and elsewhere in refugee camps (they are internally displaced refugees) paid any compensation by Govt and if so what is the amount? How does the compensation compare with that paid to other internally displaced refugees?

(c) Are non Kashmiri Indian Muslims in favor of Article 370? How do we know?

(d) Who has been branded communal merely for calling for abolishing Article 370 and for calling for uniform civil code, and by who?

(e) What are the instances of minority appeasement in India? What are the instances of majority appeasement?

vij_mahesh · Post by **vij_mahesh** » Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:08 am

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(c) Are non Kashmiri Indian Muslims in favor of Article 370? How do we know?

You just echoed my sentiments. Why Kashmiris should be see as Muslim and non muslims? You can see similar kind of sentiments in so called secular parties in India.

Whether Kashmiris want or do not want article 370 is ir-relevent. We can not give special status to any state(s) in India. All states must be treated equally.

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d) Who has been branded communal merely for calling for abolishing Article 370 and for calling for uniform civil code, and by who?

Here you go:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniform_civil_code
"The Uniform Civil Code is seen as a "Hindu nationalist conspiracy" contrived to suppress the minority Muslim community. "

I smelled similar sentiments all thru the media and so-called secular parties. Supreme court has reminded many times to implement UCC, but who cares?