Hi,
Does anyone have information about CIE Syllabus and are there any reasons why CIE should be preferred over CBSE or vice versa.
Thanks.
CIE Syllabus
CIE Syllabus
Do you mean to ask ICSE syllabus?
I have not heard anything like ICE syllabus so far
I have not heard anything like ICE syllabus so far
CIE Syllabus
Too broad a question to answer.
I found this article an interesting read -> http://www.livemint.com/2007/08/18001005/Which-school-are-you-in.html
It was interesting to read contrasting views as in:
[quote]At the conveniently located ?ole Mondiale World School at Juhu, there are few open spaces. But the classrooms are large, the corridors eye-catching and the laboratories gleaming (as parents will tell you, they allow nail polish and don?t insist on braided hair and, oh my god, what parties those kids have).[/quote]..and...
[quote]After all, as Prof. Ashok Korwar, previously of IIM Ahmedabad, says: ?India is not air conditioned. It?s bad for kids to be so coddled?they should be able to travel in a bus.? And eventually, the style of schooling affects larger issues. ?How are our kids going to slog to earn their living, to live without an AC, at least in the first few years, and to commute by local train, if they are brought up in such pampered surroundings?? points out Kavitha.[/quote]As for comparison, here is what I read
[quote]And finally, which is the better curriculum? IB/IGCSE or CBSE/ICSE? IB maybe the trendiest acronym in academics today, but it?s questionable whether the Geneva-based IB-trained kids can easily move to Indian colleges. After an IB, it?s difficult to get into the traditional college system and, indeed, almost all IB graduates go abroad.
But IB converts say it?s project-based learning over ?spit and rote?. Entrepreneur and investor Mahesh Murthy and poet wife Manisha Lakhe?s son Agni goes to the Cambridge IGCSE-affiliated Billabong International School in Mumbai. ?He wants to go to school on Sunday,? says Lakhe, explaining how stimulating studies can be. Agrees journalist Sunita Wadekar Bhargava, whose son Saahil studies in Class VIII at the city?s American International School: ?They learn integers and decimals through following the share prices of four stocks over three months, and now Saahil knows his numbers perfectly.? Says an enthusiastic Saahil: ?We do a lot of group projects. I did research on Wikipedia and made a PowerPoint on Amerigo Vespucci when we were studying European explorers; it was fun and my teacher loved it.?
Still, IB can get a little too international. Shalini Advani was principal of the British School, New Delhi, but her daughter Keya studied at the traditional Sardar Patel Vidyalaya: ?If you are Indian, you need to study Indian history in your growing years; you need to do Hindi seriously.? IB schools study world geography and history.
And the international school curriculum is far removed from the realities of competitive exams. For IIT-minded students such as Ishaan Sethi of DPS R.K. Puram, these schools don?t cut much ice. ?It looks like a resort,? he complains of a Gurgaon-based international school which he visited during an inter-school match. The Class XI student prefers his own school. ?The faculty is very academically-oriented,? he explains. ?We used to keep complaining about our class tests, but when it?s the end of February and your exams are two weeks away, you are so glad you had those monthly tests. Everything?s easy and at your fingertips.?
Traditional schools have these strengths, especially progressive ones such as Shri Ram and Sanskriti in New Delhi, Besant Montessori in Mumbai and Krishnamurthy Foundation?s ?The School? in Chennai. And they don?t have to be frogs in the well. As Advani points out: ?A good solid Indian school looks outward. It has its own way of being international.?
[/quote]It would be tough to compare these international systems with the traditional Indian systems yet. Not much is known yet about the graduates of these international systems. If someone had already posted on this, would love to review.
Syllabus - http://www.cambridgestudents.org.uk/
I found this article an interesting read -> http://www.livemint.com/2007/08/18001005/Which-school-are-you-in.html
It was interesting to read contrasting views as in:
[quote]At the conveniently located ?ole Mondiale World School at Juhu, there are few open spaces. But the classrooms are large, the corridors eye-catching and the laboratories gleaming (as parents will tell you, they allow nail polish and don?t insist on braided hair and, oh my god, what parties those kids have).[/quote]..and...
[quote]After all, as Prof. Ashok Korwar, previously of IIM Ahmedabad, says: ?India is not air conditioned. It?s bad for kids to be so coddled?they should be able to travel in a bus.? And eventually, the style of schooling affects larger issues. ?How are our kids going to slog to earn their living, to live without an AC, at least in the first few years, and to commute by local train, if they are brought up in such pampered surroundings?? points out Kavitha.[/quote]As for comparison, here is what I read
[quote]And finally, which is the better curriculum? IB/IGCSE or CBSE/ICSE? IB maybe the trendiest acronym in academics today, but it?s questionable whether the Geneva-based IB-trained kids can easily move to Indian colleges. After an IB, it?s difficult to get into the traditional college system and, indeed, almost all IB graduates go abroad.
But IB converts say it?s project-based learning over ?spit and rote?. Entrepreneur and investor Mahesh Murthy and poet wife Manisha Lakhe?s son Agni goes to the Cambridge IGCSE-affiliated Billabong International School in Mumbai. ?He wants to go to school on Sunday,? says Lakhe, explaining how stimulating studies can be. Agrees journalist Sunita Wadekar Bhargava, whose son Saahil studies in Class VIII at the city?s American International School: ?They learn integers and decimals through following the share prices of four stocks over three months, and now Saahil knows his numbers perfectly.? Says an enthusiastic Saahil: ?We do a lot of group projects. I did research on Wikipedia and made a PowerPoint on Amerigo Vespucci when we were studying European explorers; it was fun and my teacher loved it.?
Still, IB can get a little too international. Shalini Advani was principal of the British School, New Delhi, but her daughter Keya studied at the traditional Sardar Patel Vidyalaya: ?If you are Indian, you need to study Indian history in your growing years; you need to do Hindi seriously.? IB schools study world geography and history.
And the international school curriculum is far removed from the realities of competitive exams. For IIT-minded students such as Ishaan Sethi of DPS R.K. Puram, these schools don?t cut much ice. ?It looks like a resort,? he complains of a Gurgaon-based international school which he visited during an inter-school match. The Class XI student prefers his own school. ?The faculty is very academically-oriented,? he explains. ?We used to keep complaining about our class tests, but when it?s the end of February and your exams are two weeks away, you are so glad you had those monthly tests. Everything?s easy and at your fingertips.?
Traditional schools have these strengths, especially progressive ones such as Shri Ram and Sanskriti in New Delhi, Besant Montessori in Mumbai and Krishnamurthy Foundation?s ?The School? in Chennai. And they don?t have to be frogs in the well. As Advani points out: ?A good solid Indian school looks outward. It has its own way of being international.?
[/quote]It would be tough to compare these international systems with the traditional Indian systems yet. Not much is known yet about the graduates of these international systems. If someone had already posted on this, would love to review.
Syllabus - http://www.cambridgestudents.org.uk/
CIE Syllabus
Hello Hyd2009
CIE syllabus books are something provided by schools I believe. I doubt if you can buy them here in bookstores yet.
Its better to read the CIE website to find what is covered as part of curriculum.
The IGCSE is considered to be class 10 equivalent and Level A as class 12.
Some school like Shrinidhi already provide this curriculum.
It is a more of open ended and application oriented teaching I believe.
Question is how do teachers who probably have about 20 something years of experience in CBSE teach this. Its a wait and watch game.
ICSE syllabus is a lot more application oriented so CIE program comes easy to them.
I have my cousins kids who have been in IGSE program and opted for CBSE program from the 8th grade. Based on their experience I gather the following
There are pros and cons to both traditional methodology of CBSE and IGCSE.
First the Pros of IGCSE:
CONS of IGCSE
Advantages of CBSE.
CONS
End of the thing I can say its a mixed baggage. If you can afford it nothing like giving the child exposure to this cirriculum. You will also get a hang for it. By 6th or 8th grade which are the checkpoints you can always reevaluate your situation and also how benefitial it is being for your child.
Also by then your child may start showing inclination towards a particular stream that could very well may decide.
Also things may change a lot in next 6-8 years. By then we will have enough data to see how this system is faring. Whether this is solely for kids opting for studies abroad or it is also working well with Indian education. By then Iam sure even experienced teacher would have increased in this area.
MK2007
**Disclaimer (these notes are based on what I analysed talking to 2 or 3 families whose children are either in IB program or were in IGCSE at some point. Please do your due verfications with other families.
http://www.indicareer.com/career-related-articles//IGCSE-education.html
CIE syllabus books are something provided by schools I believe. I doubt if you can buy them here in bookstores yet.
Its better to read the CIE website to find what is covered as part of curriculum.
The IGCSE is considered to be class 10 equivalent and Level A as class 12.
Some school like Shrinidhi already provide this curriculum.
It is a more of open ended and application oriented teaching I believe.
Question is how do teachers who probably have about 20 something years of experience in CBSE teach this. Its a wait and watch game.
ICSE syllabus is a lot more application oriented so CIE program comes easy to them.
I have my cousins kids who have been in IGSE program and opted for CBSE program from the 8th grade. Based on their experience I gather the following
There are pros and cons to both traditional methodology of CBSE and IGCSE.
First the Pros of IGCSE:
The curriculum in its very nature forces the child to think out of the box.
Very practical in nature and improves the communication and presentation skillset in the child.
A child who goes thru this program is kind of more industry wary in the sense be able to provide with papers, journals, reports etc.
SAT ready and if the child decides to undergo studies abroad the child has a seemless fit and accepted more readily.
CONS of IGCSE
After 10th and Inter Child faces a struggle to go back to rote methodology so sort of feels unfit for schooling in India.
Entrance examinations still are more based upn your ability to memorize facts. Children might face an issue tackling these.
A lot depends on who is providing the education. If the teachers and guides are on par and excellent then this kind of education will prove its expected results.
How many teachers in India at school level are capable of giving this technique of teaching. Will our childern be the scapegoats of their training?
Parental Involvement for projects and reseacher especially in primary clases will be higher.
CIE or IB is still very nacent in India. Too early to say very good or not worth it.
Advantages of CBSE.
More Indianized.
Better to take this stream if child is inclined towards engineering and medicine.
More undergrad teaching and acceptance from the teaching community is still from the traditinal old school so kind of fitting in for a child from IGCSE is hard.
It is also application oriented but not as much as ICSE or IGCSE.
If both parents are working and have to depend on tution teachers for helping their kids then this is a known and better methodology,
CONS
same old rote methodology.
End of the thing I can say its a mixed baggage. If you can afford it nothing like giving the child exposure to this cirriculum. You will also get a hang for it. By 6th or 8th grade which are the checkpoints you can always reevaluate your situation and also how benefitial it is being for your child.
Also by then your child may start showing inclination towards a particular stream that could very well may decide.
Also things may change a lot in next 6-8 years. By then we will have enough data to see how this system is faring. Whether this is solely for kids opting for studies abroad or it is also working well with Indian education. By then Iam sure even experienced teacher would have increased in this area.
MK2007
**Disclaimer (these notes are based on what I analysed talking to 2 or 3 families whose children are either in IB program or were in IGCSE at some point. Please do your due verfications with other families.
http://www.indicareer.com/career-related-articles//IGCSE-education.html
Hyd2009;150658Hi,
Does anyone have information about CIE Syllabus and are there any reasons why CIE should be preferred over CBSE or vice versa.
Thanks.[/quote]
CIE Syllabus
To a certain extent the quotes of Boca are to be taken in true sense.
However I think the papering part depends on the school.
When I talked to CHRIEC in Hyderabad. They have assured that there would not be any AC facilites for the children in this Curriculum. But for the classes all activities and other school events will be along with the rest of the school.
In my opinion this is a better way to delete the feeling of exclusiveness among the kids. If in future the school changes its song then it would be a matter of concern.
MK
Actually if some of the forum members whose childern go to international schools can thro some light on this issue if would be great!
However I think the papering part depends on the school.
When I talked to CHRIEC in Hyderabad. They have assured that there would not be any AC facilites for the children in this Curriculum. But for the classes all activities and other school events will be along with the rest of the school.
In my opinion this is a better way to delete the feeling of exclusiveness among the kids. If in future the school changes its song then it would be a matter of concern.
MK
Actually if some of the forum members whose childern go to international schools can thro some light on this issue if would be great!