India: Law & Order, Security and Terrorism

[tejasvee]

Looking at these images again fills me with a sense of deep sorrow, anguish, and anger. I just hope that we had a leader at the helm who could have brought justice to all these people who lost their loved ones. I pray that I never forget what happened, and will do my part one day to make a stronger India.
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Well.. we do have a "leader" who fits all your expectations... not just Indian, but a lot of 'foreign' expectations too :emsad:

[KirKS]

Came across some out-of-ordinary thoughts of Subramanian Swamy today. If Islamic Terrorism has 5 goals, Swamy suggests 5 strategies, albeit pretty radical. I doubt any political party can even think of following these strategies, even his best chance BJP. Swamy's strategies are presented after detailing how India has ended up in the current mess. He warns Indians that at the current rate (predicts a 2012 take over of Pakistan by Taliban), Hindus in India are heading towards the same path as Persian, Babylonian and Egyptian civilizations.

When no one has a practical suggestion to address the menace of Jihadist terrorism, at least someone is presenting clear strategies.. Worth a read. Strategy #4 was very innovative. Never heard the Bangladesh land annexing proposal, however impractical it may be, before :idea:

How to wipe out Islamic terror
By Subramanian Swamy

http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/op-ed/how-to-wipe-out-islamic-terror/177598.html

[QUOTE]Goal 1: Overawe India on Kashmir.

Strategy: Remove Article 370, and re-settle ex-servicemen in the Valley. Create Panun Kashmir for Hindu Pandit community. Look or create opportunity to take over PoK. If Pakistan continues to back terrorists, assist the Baluchis and Sindhis to struggle for independence.

Goal 2: Blast our temples and kill Hindu devotees.

Strategy: Remove the masjid in Kashi Vishwanath temple complex, and 300 others in other sites as a tit-for-tat.

Goal 3: Make India into Darul Islam.

Strategy: Implement Uniform Civil Code, make Sanskrit learning compulsory and singing of Vande Mataram mandatory, and declare India as Hindu Rashtra in which only those non-Hindus can vote if they proudly acknowledge that their ancestors are Hindus. Re-name India as Hindustan as a nation of Hindus and those whose ancestors are Hindus.

Goal 4: Change India’s demography by illegal immigration, conversion, and refusal to adopt family planning.

Strategy: Enact a national law prohibiting conversion from Hindu religion to any other religion. Re-conversion will not be banned. Declare caste is not birth-based but code of discipline based. Welcome non-Hindus to re-convert to the caste of their choice provided they adhere to the code of discipline. Annex land from Bangladesh in proportion to the illegal migrants from that country staying in India. At present, northern one-third from Sylhet to Khulna can be annexed to re-settle the illegal migrants.

Goal 5: Denigrate Hinduism through vulgar writings and preaching in mosques, madrassas, and churches to create loss of self-respect amongst Hindus and make them fit for capitulation.

Strategy: Propagate the development of a Hindu mindset (see my new book Hindutva and National Renaissance, Haranand, 2010).

[dbs]

Came across some out-of-ordinary thoughts of Subramanian Swamy today. If Islamic Terrorism has 5 goals, Swamy suggests 5 strategies, albeit pretty radical. I doubt any political party can even think of following these strategies, even his best chance BJP. Swamy's strategies are presented after detailing how India has ended up in the current mess. He warns Indians that at the current rate (predicts a 2012 take over of Pakistan by Taliban), Hindus in India are heading towards the same path as Persian, Babylonian and Egyptian civilizations.

When no one has a practical suggestion to address the menace of Jihadist terrorism, at least someone is presenting clear strategies.. Worth a read. Strategy #4 was very innovative. Never heard the Bangladesh land annexing proposal, however impractical it may be, before :idea:

How to wipe out Islamic terror
By Subramanian Swamy
Goal 1: Overawe India on Kashmir.

Strategy: Remove Article 370, and re-settle ex-servicemen in the Valley. Create Panun Kashmir for Hindu Pandit community. Look or create opportunity to take over PoK. If Pakistan continues to back terrorists, assist the Baluchis and Sindhis to struggle for independence.


http://expressbuzz.com/opinion/op-ed/how-to-wipe-out-islamic-terror/177598.html

Goal 1 strategy was followed by English in North Ireland. After a bloddy struggle, it has succeeded finally. I would recommend it.

[indigoyogi]

Goal 1 strategy was followed by English in North Ireland. After a bloddy struggle, it has succeeded finally. I would recommend it.

Will happen when pigs fly and our leaders have some spine :-)

Added later: I agree with you dbs. My response was based on the lack of political will in India.

[Desi]

I think he forgot "ban koran" and Bombing of Muslim neighborhoods. Rabid anti Islamic stuff of chaddi walas is what he is proposing. Clearly, he wants to annex Bangladesh, Pakistan and create a religion based Hindu rashtra. Such bigots are a bane for India.

and this one " Remove the masjid in Kashi Vishwanath temple complex, and 300 others in other sites as a tit-for-tat. " stinks like a stale fart.

[M V]

Came across some out-of-ordinary thoughts of Subramanian Swamy today. [/quote]
[QUOTE]Goal 4: Change India’s demography by illegal immigration, conversion, and refusal to adopt family planning.
Strategy: Enact a national law prohibiting conversion from Hindu religion to any other religion. Re-conversion will not be banned. Declare caste is not birth-based but code of discipline based. Welcome non-Hindus to re-convert to the caste of their choice provided they adhere to the code of discipline. Annex land from Bangladesh in proportion to the illegal migrants from that country staying in India. At present, northern one-third from Sylhet to Khulna can be annexed to re-settle the illegal migrants.

The non-Hindus can pick any caste to re-convert to? Even the highest? Will they then be made in-charge of temples?

Can existing Hindus also choose to change their caste since caste will be declared to be not birth-based? If that is not allowed, can they convert to other religion temporarily and then convert back to Hinduism and a caste of their choice? Like hopping across the U.S. border to a consulate in Mexico?

Or, will the offer to re-convert to any caste of their choice be like DISH Network's "Free installation in 4 rooms" promotions - available only to new customers?

Out-of-ordinary and innovative thoughts indeed! :29:

[Sarkar07]

#58, I think the strategies proposed are nonsense and born out of religious hatred towards the muslims - the same kind that he accuses the muslims to harbor. Basically he is saying let us become the Hindu equivalents of Taliban/Pakistan or other religious hardliners. Next thing we know we will be blowing up our own people as is now being seen in Pakistan.

There MAY be some merit in abolishing article 370; apart from that suggestion rest of the article is nonsense, imo.

[BeeAndButterfly]

Interesting article. Would be good to have a separate thread to discuss it in further detail.

[sophisticuss]

[QUOTE]Remove the masjid in Kashi Vishwanath temple complex

Why is it a far fetched thought ?

Here is the link from wiki about how many times , the temple was destroyed..

[QUOTE]Muhammad Ghori destroyed it along with other temples of Varanasi during his raid in 1194. Reconstruction of the temple started soon after. This was demolished by Qutb-ud-din Aybak. After Aybak's death the temple was again rebuilt. In 1351 it was destroyed again by Firuz Shah Tughlaq.[3] The temple was rebuilt in 1585 by Todar Mal, the Revenue Minister of Akbar's Court.[5] Aurangzeb ordered its demolition in 1669 and constructed Gyanvapi Mosque, which still exists alongside the temple [6]. Traces of the old temple can be seen behind the mosque.

[BeeAndButterfly]

Since we are cowards, we will hide behind the rhetoric of peace and brotherhood and keep ceding territory to jihadis.

Since pakistan, bangladesh, POK are not enough, we will keep handing over territories in the name of democracy every time they encroach, multiply, ethnically cleanse hindus and then demand the territory for themselves. Secession by encroachment.

We will be blind to the fact that hindus have been decimated in Pakistan and bangladesh and driven out of kashmir. We shall not identify the same patterns of mass conversion, uprising, encroachment that happen elsewhere in the name of secularism.

We shall stay obsessed with the 8000 cases of sati reported couple of centuries ago and think our religion inferior due to that.

We will be oblivious to the decimation of natives in australia, us, south america or slave trade and think of the west as being tolerant and superior and ourselves as being barbaric (inline with the colonizers perspective).