Karnataka has 87% filled water, but will not share water as usual

[shell]

Another experience @ DPS South.
The lady at front desk knew Kannada very well. She was speaking to guard when we went there and continued to talk to him while we were there. She knew I speak kannada too since I was talking to my uncle while I was checking about school. I tried to speak in kannada but she switched to english and didn't bother to give answers to any of my questions asked in kannada. I just switched to english, finished my work and we came back.

Another experience @ some school in Delhi.
The lady at front desk did know hindi. The security guard did know hindi. The communicate in english in school premises.
The children knew hindi , the teacher knows hindi. The medium of instruction is english.
Two girls were caught speaking to each other in hindi during lunch break. They had to write an imposition 'I will not speak in Hindi'.
The 'english medium' tag does not come easy.

I don't think school/work environment is an apt example . The language spoken is not the one preffered personally but the one dictated by work culture.

[theMan]

Consider the scenario:
1. Out of 114 tmcft total storage, KN has 87% filled up water.
2. Krishnasagar dam has reached full level of water.
3. KN Water minister says bright chances the dams will be overflowing.
4. TN Mettur dam has only three weeks of water.
5. As per the interim award, KN has released only 50% of water.

Yet KN will not share water.
If pushed they might threaten violence with the usual bus burning, riots, killing people which they are quite used to now.
Courts can order, Governments can request, even Supreme Court can order, but Kannadigas will not share water.
Ofcourse they will demand water from others, but sharing is simply not in their gene. :))


http://www.hindu.com/2010/10/28/stories/2010102863330400.htm

First of all, the short form to address Karnataka is KA and not KN. Having dabbled in so much real estate in Bangalore, you must have known that.
As for the Govt. releasing water to TN, I don't think you will ever hear a KA politician say it openly. On the contrary, I would be surprised to hear a TN politician come out with a stance saying that KA farmers and other people need the water and let us forfeit our share. The supreme court has given a verdict and will be implemented, so these discussions every year is nothing but posturing and are not to be taken seriously.
You already have formed an opinion about Kannadigas and nothing you hear or read will alter that. My take is the average Kannadiga does not trust people from TN as a group and that too in a very broad sense that has any meaningful implication. That does not mean that they will resort to killing them or harming them whenever an opportunity presents itself. You are taking actions of some vested interests/goons and applying to the general population. You have done that in the past with the managalore incident and applied it to all Kannadigas. People's opinion do change, mostly for the better with more individual interaction and when money/trade is involved.

[My Roots]

The language spoken is not the one preffered personally but the one dictated by work culture.

Even at street vendors selling Rakhi?

[boca]

Even at street vendors selling Rakhi?

Are you helping hijack this thread? :) Please let it go.

[VS007]

I would be surprised to hear a TN politician come out with a stance saying that KA farmers and other people need the water and let us forfeit our share.

People are asking Karnataka to release the TN's share of water. So does the Court and the Supreme Court. KA on the other hand lays its claim on water resources even in TN. When TN Govt tapped water from Hogenakkal(its in TN) to supply water to water starved and fluorosis affected areas, the current CM as a candidate made a big political issue. Thats KA for you.

The supreme court has given a verdict and will be implemented, so these discussions every year is nothing but posturing and are not to be taken seriously.

The final committee has given the verdict and KA obviously appealed to Supreme Court.
Regarding seriously, going by the past records of killing scores of people and rioting and burning buses with people inside them, I am sure KA will take it seriously too this time.


[QUOTE]
You already have formed an opinion about Kannadigas and nothing you hear or read will alter that. My take is the average Kannadiga does not trust people from TN as a group and that too in a very broad sense that has any meaningful implication.You should be happy to know that TN has no problem with KA or its people and does not use water sharing issue to be solved by killing people. You should be well aware that even during 91 riots when many number of Tamils were killed in KA, the TN people did not retaliate for a long time and were very patient. There were only very incidents proportionately and that too was a response to the crimes committed in KA.
This can also be witnessed during t he installation of statues of the poets, in TN no one bothered, and in KA there were road incidents and morchas and stuff. Thats KA for you. BTW these are facts.

[shell]

I was speaking about the school example specifically. Maybe the instruction to people working there is speak english to convey professionalism.

But on further thought rakhi is mainly a north indian festival, the clientele for this street vendor is mainly hindi speaking and he is able to get by speaking in hindi.
Now if someone wanted a job in vidyarthi bhavan, he won't get that if he can't speak kannada. ( Or maybe he would everyone orders their divine masala dosa and all that is required is the number :D )

[theMan]

People are asking Karnataka to release the TN's share of water. So does the Court and the Supreme Court. KA on the other hand lays its claim on water resources even in TN. When TN Govt tapped water from Hogenakkal(its in TN) to supply water to water starved and fluorosis affected areas, the current CM as a candidate made a big political issue. Thats KA for you.

Oh yeah, the issue is not so black and white as you make it out to be. That project has an impact on the water situation in KA as well.

The final committee has given the verdict and KA obviously appealed to Supreme Court.

Don't they have a right to appeal

Regarding seriously, going by the past records of killing scores of people and rioting and burning buses with people inside them, I am sure KA will take it seriously too this time.


You should be happy to know that TN has no problem with KA or its people and does not use water sharing issue to be solved by killing people. You should be well aware that even during 91 riots when many number of Tamils were killed in KA, the TN people did not retaliate for a long time and were very patient. There were only very incidents proportionately and that too was a response to the crimes committed in KA.
This can also be witnessed during t he installation of statues of the poets, in TN no one bothered, and in KA there were road incidents and morchas and stuff. Thats KA for you. BTW these are facts.

Do you not understand or not want to see the difference between goondas and regular people?

[VS007]

Oh yeah, the issue is not so black and white as you make it out to be. That project has an impact on the water situation in KA as well.

Reminds me of a story of a fox drinking upstream river water complaining to a goat drinking downstream.
KA drawing water for Bangalore also has similar impact on TN, which was approved by the great sleeping PM of KA Mr Gowda.

Do you not understand or not want to see the difference between goondas and regular people?

That distinction gets blurred when the "regular" people start giving justification for the crime instead of wholeheartedly condemning it.

[My Roots]

I am confused where to post. Here or H&B.

KA drawing water for Bangalore also has similar impact on TN[/quote]

How? Also, do you know whether BLR really gets water from Kavery? Yes, there are pipelines and promise to supply water but one gets water once in a week or two. Most end up getting water from tankers. Don't you know about this fact?

[My Roots]

But on further thought rakhi is mainly a north indian festival, the clientele for this street vendor is mainly hindi speaking and he is able to get by speaking in hindi

Pardon my ignorance. I thought Rakhi became college/teen celebration long back leaving SI/NI tag.