Varuna Yagna - for rain

GutsyGibbon · Post by **GutsyGibbon** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 2:34 am

Rs17 crores of Govt. money is the cost of rains. With economic progress there is no doubt we will have ample water :)
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article3662167.ece?homepage=true

okonomi · Post by **okonomi** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 3:09 am

GutsyGibbon;466745Rs17 crores of Govt. money is the cost of rains. With economic progress there is no doubt we will have ample water :)
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article3662167.ece?homepage=true

Once again, India is proactive whereas we are sunk in a malaise in America.
We are suffering the biggest drought since the dust bowl days...and our government is doing NOTHING....
Anyone in the corn-futures ? You know what I am talking about.
They ought to meet with the elders in all the tribes in the Reservations. Bring out the best rain dancers and have a pow-wow in Kansas. Did anyone care that Dodge City has suffered 7 consecutive days of over 100 F in June... in JUNE ! Where is Matt Dillon ? He could ride out and get some Pawnee come to town and take care of bizness.

R2MyOldWorld · Post by **R2MyOldWorld** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:38 am

GutsyGibbon;466745Rs17 crores of Govt. money is the cost of rains. With economic progress there is no doubt we will have ample water
http://www.thehindu.com/news/states/karnataka/article3662167.ece?homepage=true

Rain God gives India more water than its population can possibly use. If only the great Government of India had little bit of vision and honesty to implement the water conservation and storage schemes than spending crores on these stupid prayers. Now where are those who think government knows all and there are no water shortages in India? Call me sinister but I hope next year's water shortage is so bad that even those ba$tards in government experience what it means to wait hours or walk miles for few liters of water.

okonomi · Post by **okonomi** » Sat Jul 21, 2012 4:51 am

In that Hindu article, there is
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The Department of Revenue (Muzrai) has issued a circular to 34,000 temples under its control to conduct ‘abhishekha,’ ‘varuna mantra,’ ‘jalabhishekha’ and several other rituals......
The government has sanctioned a maximum of Rs. 5,000 for each temple. This will amount to not less than Rs.17 crore. Temples in the A, B and C categories are expected to conduct the rituals on July 27 and August 2. The circular makes a particular mention of such prominent temples as Kollur Mookambika, Kukke Subrahmanya Swamy, Kateelu Durgaparmeshwari and Nanjangud Srikantheswara Swamy.

It looks like an economic stimulus plan with a win-win strategy for the 2014 elections.
If there is rain, (or not) the castes that believe in the temple/puja things would look kindly upon the ruling parties.
If there is rain, but not sufficiently enough of it, then the ruling junta can blame the opposition for angering the gods to reduce the amount of rain.
If there is no rain, the ruling junta can still claim they had done all they can, and if only the opposition had their traps shut and not put the kibosh on the scheme by bad-mouthing it before it could work.

I know one thing. If there is rain, and plenty of it, then the priests who performed that varuna yagna will get H1B visas to come out here and do the same magic for us (I mean, US) in the next season. We like software people, the softer, the better.

KirKS · Post by **KirKS** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 10:59 pm

GutsyGibbon;466745Rs17 crores of Govt. money is the cost of rains. With economic progress there is no doubt we will have ample water :)

Government money?

Dude.. Karnataka government has a Mujrai department (Endowments) which controls over 34,000 temples of the state. It collects all the voluntary donations by the millions of Hindu devotees and then "administers" the temples using that money (whatever is left after "secular" causes like Haj subsidy or politicians' pet projects). Surprisingly, the same government in a secular country wouldn't dare touch a church or mosque's donations or money.

Easily the collection is in 100s of crores a year, paid by practicing Hindus who have absolutely no issues with Vedic time practices like prayer for rain.

So a few crores being allowed to be used by the temples for what they are capable of, conducting Yajnas or Poojas, a crime?

What else you expect a temple to do? Cloud seeding or conduct a world meteorologist conference?

First you ask the government to keep off Hindu temples and then we can talk of "Government money"!

Desi · Post by **Desi** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:26 pm

They have done this before.
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?There are no rains and food production has fallen due to the sins committed by various people in the past. I believe in God. I have allocated money so that Gods will be pleased and shower mercy on us.?? << B.S Yeddyyurappa

" I will give money to Gods and also focus on city development." <<< Yeddyyurappa.

[QUOTE] One of the main criticisms about allocation of money to temples and caste organizations is that it had been done to create vote banks ahead of the Lok Sabha elections. BJP member C T Ravi said: ?Yes, we will create a vote bank of our own.

Guys STOP committing sins, you are causing the suffering of poor farmers.

The poor farmer is waiting for rain, the least we can do is bribe the Gods - bribery is our national pastime. But I don't think 17 crores will be enough.

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[QUOTE]In its first three years, when B.S. Yeddyurappa was at the helm, the government gave away 1397 crore to caste-based mutts. D.V. Sadananda Gowda, who succeeded Yeddyurappa last year, continued with it. The state budget for 2012-13 has set aside 1108 crore for mutts. Before the BJP came into power, only temples received government funds through the Muzrai department for their upkeep.

Interestingly, the grants to mutts have been budgeted under the head ?other social services'. The logic is that mutts need government support because they share the welfare objectives of the government by running educational institutions, hospitals, mass feeding programmes and mass marriages. What goes unsaid is that these institutions are run largely on commercial terms and are not exactly in need of money. The grants, therefore, are political investments of a different kind.

sumeet · Post by **sumeet** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:30 pm

Yeddy is absolutely spot on when he says state is suffering (from drought) due to sins of his predecessors.

From that accurate logic, drought this year can directly be attributed to the 'sins' he and his corrupt govt. did. :)

Desi · Post by **Desi** » Mon Jul 23, 2012 11:51 pm

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“There are no rains and food production has fallen due to the sins committed by various people in the past. I believe in God. I have allocated money so that Gods will be pleased and shower mercy on us.’’ << B.S Yeddyyurappa

Yeddy thinks God can be bribed because they need some money and will be very pleased with some ghee burnt in the yagna, because there is shortage of pure ghee in the Godland.

PeterGriffin · Post by **PeterGriffin** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:27 am

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?There are no rains and food production has fallen due to the sins committed by various people in the past. I believe in God. I have allocated money so that Gods will be pleased and shower mercy on us.?? << B.S Yeddyyurappa

Yeddy thinks God can be bribed because they need some money and will be very pleased with some ghee burnt in the yagna, because there is shortage of pure ghee in the Godland.

During my recent trip to India, I was surprised to see numerous BS ceremonies being conducted in the name of religion. I had been to Tirupati to attend a wedding. Though we did not travel up the hill for a darshan, we were offered to buy those seva tickets with a premium (A.K.A. black market) to get the darshan of the lord! To me, it beats all logic and common sense. To my surprise, several of them jumped on that offer. The guy who sold it, proclaimed himself to be "ardent" devotee.

KirKS · Post by **KirKS** » Tue Jul 24, 2012 12:31 am

Tsch..tsch..

"My CM better than your CM?"

http://www.deccanherald.com/content/265976/shettar-government-turns-rain-god.html

[QUOTE]This is not the first time the muzrai department has ordered special prayers for rain. In 2001, the then S M Krishna government had instructed the department to hold special poojas in the face of a severe drought that year.

Or

"My "secular" party better than your "communal" party?" :wink

GRAND FINALE: Chief Minister Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy (wrapped in sacred clothes) watching the ’poornahuti’ of the ’Varuna Japam’, performed by priests of the TTD, at Exhibition Grounds in Hyderabad on Friday. (July 25, 2008)

Recent rain attributed to TTD yagna
http://www.hindu.com/2008/07/26/stories/2008072656710500.htm

[QUOTE]Chief Minister Y.S. Rajasekhara Reddy has attributed the widespread rains in the State during the last two days to a yagna performed by the Tirumala Tirupati Devasthanam (TTD) in the city.

And I need not remind that the CM wrapped in sacred cloths here was a Christian and a fan boy of all "seculars" in India. LoL!