MT: Spirituality Vs Science

[lsvenkat]

A theologian is person who explains the entire creation through GOD and leaves GOD himself unexplained

[vijspganesh]

Just like how unless all religions come together, have common opinion, not kill over each other, and follow the true and only original, Santhana Dharma, they will all be the laughing stock? :)). Would they be able to arrange a similar press conference postulating belief in only one and kommon God and the various religious beliefs are the exact replica of each other?

I thought World 1 ,2 are not for religion?

Anyways I think you joined lately into this discussion and may not have got chance to read old posts.

We clearly accepted that each living being bats,rats,humans etc perception of the world differs and so do opinions..

Atheists in this forum could not digest this fact and kept rubbing their faith and beliefs over others irrespective of us telling N number of times that each living being perception of the world will be different based on their individual consciousness.

[vijspganesh]

I am sure that the atheists will be more than willing to provide all those as long as the theists show proof of how various Gods came in the first place (I hope it wont be some BS like "The Gods were just there!", or that "Gods are almighty"). If theists attribute the presence of one God due to another, please provide a chart to trace the lineage all the way back and tell us how they were created, existed and created other Gods.

P.S: Rhetorical questions and condescending statements really have place in this forum. If one is able to argue, please argue with facts or statements instead of pointing to rhetorical feed-good questions and condescending statements.

PS2: The more it is used, the more it indicates a lack of substance for which such tactics are resorted to . The forum members are very well versed in this lack of quality, and tend to ignore the posts over a period of time.

Cannot agree with your views sir.

Please first suggest those atheists to answer our questions and then we will let you know again our perceptions of the world.

If they are not aware i have a suggestion for them.Let them come back to this post with a reply saying to stop using "Rhetorical questions and condescending statements" and escape the debate :p or maybe they can choose one more trick adapted by one of the member saying our questions lack depth and quality and play hide-and-seek game.

Anyways I suggest you please go through old posts and then comment on our definition of god and whether we believe in human god sitting in some remote sky etc..

[bigdreamer]

Sorry rejected :)) BTW nice art creation of unknown bird ... Better luck next time..

D.birds are not figuring in Santana Dharma and hence rejected?
You dug up your backyard and found no traces of D.birds and therefore are rejecting the idea?
What are you rejecting exactly and based on what evidence?

Do one thing.. make a common platform for every scientist in the world and let them acknowledge that they all have similiar views like you and then we will resume discussion :))

This is super crazy stuff.

[bigdreamer]

Interesting to know John Eccles(nobel laureate) perceptions of this world ...

Ofcourse its obvious that few humans perceptions will be different and may reject his views..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Eccles_(neurophysiologist)#Philosophy

That's 20th century.

Here's 21st century.

[video=youtube;jTWmTJALe1w]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTWmTJALe1w#![/video]

[PeterGriffin]

Cannot agree with your views sir.

Sorry rejected :))
Do one thing.. make a common platform for every Guruji in the world and let them acknowledge that they all have similiar views like you and then we will resume discussion :))

[GutsyGibbon]

Your comments on ayurveda are unfair sir.
Very recently one of my relative and my friend got successful in getting treatment for their problems..

My relative went on a ayurvedic cabbage diet and was cured of cancer. I don't know complete details but it works. Yeah right!

It is a shame that govt is buying into this hype and setting up ayurvedic colleges. I was shocked to hear that a couple of young doctors in the emergency room had degrees in Ayurveda in a Jayanagar(south bangalore) hospital. I have no idea what they teach, I just hope they are well versed in some allopathy fundamentals to escalate/call the right specialist/doctor when needed.

[RBee]

I think one fellow suffered with severe neck pain and the other person suffered with spinal cord problem i believe.
I dont know all the complete details but i am sure to know that they have choosen (homeopathy/ayurveda) instead of western medical treatment.

with regards to yoga all we say is ultimate aim is to reduce anger,ego etc.. whether on chooses yoga,mediation,self-enquiry,peg of johny walker,p90, nice run in the park does not matter...

End of the day it is left to the individual to decide what really works :))

Serious neck pain and serious spinal chord injury should not be laced with
I think, I believe and I don't know. This is not 50-50 chance like mumbo-jumbo ..you know
>>End of the day it is left to the individual to decide what really works
Amen ! What took so long to discover this after pages of pravachan on why we should look at Gita:) !!

[Desi]

My relative went on a ayurvedic cabbage diet and was cured of cancer. I don't know complete details but it works. Yeah right!

It is a shame that govt is buying into this hype and setting up ayurvedic colleges. I was shocked to hear that a couple of young doctors in the emergency room had degrees in Ayurveda in a Jayanagar(south bangalore) hospital. I have no idea what they teach, I just hope they are well versed in some allopathy fundamentals to escalate/call the right specialist/doctor when needed.

He has "concluded". You still attempting to engage him and prolong our agony?

[bigdreamer]

So to conclude dudes,

Until and unless science comes back letting us now reasons(why?.ss) behind every explanation we are sorry to say we just dont believe in fairytales and we treat them as rubbish and Bin them immediately because there are chances of getting filthy smell :))..

all we ask is whys for every explanation...

when science explains "half baked" big bang theory we only ask why big bang happened? what is there before big bang??

when science explains about REM sleep cycle we ask tell us why do we get dreams and why we need sleep and purpose of the same?

In that way everything science tries to explain by its own theories all we ask is why do u think it happened ?

People who trust science-fairytales can continue to do the same and who knows your patience might be worth in the end.. :-)

Yeah so to conclude, the dicussion is analogous to one who tries to explain modern scientific computers to an ancient person like great great grand mother 10-15 generations up in the chain.


What's pathetic is that, the dicussion is taking place between people from same generation using the modern scientific computer. One side argues that science works and so is the computer. The other side uses the same god-damn scientific computer to argue that science doesn't work.