Trump vs Biden - Who will win in Nov 2020? - Part - II

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r2somewhere
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Trump vs Biden - Who will win in Nov 2020? - Part - II

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desi4ever;721785FEINSTEIN/PELOSI FAMILIES HAVE OWNERSHIP IN SOFTWARE CO THAT COUNTS VOTES


The Washington Examiner:
Former federal prosecutor Sidney Powell accused a leading voting machine firm of stealing votes from President Trump.
Powell, the lead attorney for retired Lt. Gen. Michael Flynn, who is helping Trump’s legal effort in the 2020 election, said on Sunday that people with links to top Democrats are using Dominion Voting Systems to commit “fraud” on elections. She did not present any evidence to support her claims.

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This is what some of the extreme right folks are saying.


Ah so the software was rigged, but then why not Senate?
kumm
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Network and Dems/Chinese surrogates never expected Trump to win even in 2016 and since then been blocking him with various frivolous charges. Trump's actions when he was in office had hurt Chinese the most.

It is fair to assume that China had this election rigged. First they unleashed Corona virus. Now this postal ballot fraud. It is not one state as in 2000, it is worse. I think they might have paid off Dems and Network for doing this hit job.

Now who is going to benefit from Biden becoming the president? China of course. Biden will start reversing all that Trump had done to bring back jobs. Vaccine for corona will also be available in 2 weeks time and pfizer will make a killing.
soxfan
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State poll officials - representing both republican and democrat parties - said there are no traces of irregularities anywhere:
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/10/us/politics/voting-fraud.html

Add to this, PA announced the number of ballots received after Nov 3 but before Nov 6 are less than 10k - making Biden's lead in PA beyond question even if all those ballots are taken out. Can this thing be over with now. It will be over on Jan 20 when Biden becomes president - but just feeling sad for the Trump supporters for their delusion and continuing this election-fraud argument. The don is doing this for a purpose (to sow chaos and reap business benefits and/or keep GOP under his family hold); the spineless GOP senators are doing it for a purpose (to keep trump voters with them); but I wonder why the gullible trump supporters are doing it to themselves? I can understand the POV or lunacy of a conspiracy-theory loving white supremacy believer and other such crazies - BUT cant understand a bit about some well-read reasonable people (including some intellectuals on this forum) still doubting the results....this is just puzzling.

Being in denial when your fav leader lost an election is understandable but it is getting RIDICULOUS...hope they get over it soon and move-on to other arguments.
kumm
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This is not a tit-for-tat thing.

Dem supporters in this forums can swallow anything that Network news spouts. From Russian collusion to impeachment reason...No proof required.

When it comes from GOP supporters it is RIDICULOUS never mind that Joe Biden's data in many places doesn't follow Benford's law while other candidates does, showing strong possibility of fraud.

https://www.ratburger.org/index.php/2020/11/08/benfords-law-and-the-2020-presidential-election/

Also very high voter turnout approaching 90-100% only in certain counties Joe Biden needed to win not seen except in dictatorship like Venezuela. These anomalies aren't seen in solid blue states as much as in swing states.

Benford's law has been used in court to prove fraud in 2000 and 2004 presidential elections.

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I have very little knowledge of politics. But whatever I have seen so far that Trump is doing lately looks very scary and dangerous to America and to the rest of the world as well in case he wins the battle by hook or by crook. Now he is after changing the whole government and appointing all his chamchas to all the key posts. And he is also preparing the budget for next year as if he is going to be the next president. I have a feeling he will declare this whole election itself as null and void. He can do anything because there is such a big loop hole in US constituency where the present president has full powers to rule the country for several days even after he or she lost the election. It is in my opinion mere a stupid thing to allow a out going president to give so much of powers.
r2somewhere
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Without fake Republican votes and voter suppression, this would have been a 400+ EV landslide for Biden. Polls in TX showed it was close and magically they had record turnout by Republican voters. According to Benford's law, TX should be won by Biden.
r2somewhere
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kumm;721862
It is fair to assume that China had this election rigged. First they unleashed Corona virus.


But Trump supporters told me that the virus is a hoax and is no worse than flu?
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cmk786;721867I have very little knowledge of politics. But whatever I have seen so far that Trump is doing lately looks very scary and dangerous to America and to the rest of the world as well in case he wins the battle by hook or by crook. Now he is after changing the whole government and appointing all his chamchas to all the key posts. And he is also preparing the budget for next year as if he is going to be the next president. I have a feeling he will declare this whole election itself as null and void. He can do anything because there is such a big loop hole in US constituency where the present president has full powers to rule the country for several days even after he or she lost the election. It is in my opinion mere a stupid thing to allow a out going president to give so much of powers.

Don't watch too much news liberal or conservative. It is always alarm bells ringing on how the other side is manipulating and changing our institutions etc etc.. Fear is what energizes people and creates urgency, both sides know that.

Conservative media harped out how Obama had fundamentally altered everything in 8 years. They still firmly believe every Govt institution is infiltrated by democrats. It is called "Deep state". You can read volumes on that in conservative channels.

In reality it is actually simple, the person in power can reverse everything. Trump lost the election, Dem President runs the entire administrative show. Move on..
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cmk786;721867I have very little knowledge of politics. But whatever I have seen so far that Trump is doing lately looks very scary and dangerous to America and to the rest of the world as well in case he wins the battle by hook or by crook. Now he is after changing the whole government and appointing all his chamchas to all the key posts. And he is also preparing the budget for next year as if he is going to be the next president. I have a feeling he will declare this whole election itself as null and void. He can do anything because there is such a big loop hole in US constituency where the present president has full powers to rule the country for several days even after he or she lost the election. It is in my opinion mere a stupid thing to allow a out going president to give so much of powers.


Do not watch any 24x7 news channels, they are just interested in keeping you hooked and their ratings up, so they exaggerate things to make it look scary.


I do not think Trump will be able to pull off a coup. He is raising money from his supporters by calling this election rigged. Also the republicans cannot afford to upset him due to Georgia runoff election so they are playing along to give him some time to come to terms with the end of his royal life.

Nobody in the Army will listen to him so it’s impossible for him to use force. It doesn’t matter if top pentagon posts are now occupied by his cronies, they are toothless because the real shots are called by army generals who are not interested in ruining America’s reputation for some crazy white uprising.

My hunch is any attempt by any if his armed supporters trying any stunts will be taken care by FBI.

America has institutions built over the years and its not easy to dismantle it and make it follow your diktat in just 4 years, for that you need at least 12 years of Trump like rule.

Most likely scenario is: Trump will announce his 2024 bid by next week, by saying that he will fight from now on to stop election fraud and will reclaim his throne in 2024.

Seems like Georgia is over , he lost there, recount won’t change anything since margin is big.

Hopefully we will know about Arizona by tonight , its very close but looks like Biden may hold this one too with small number, it will go to recount, but it will be game over if Trump loses this one too, unless he starts screaming that Arizona is rigged too.
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techynt;721873
Seems like Georgia is over , he lost there, recount won?t change anything since margin is big.
Hopefully we will know about Arizona by tonight , its very close but looks like Biden may hold this one too with small number, it will go to recount, but it will be game over if Trump loses this one too, unless he starts screaming that Arizona is rigged too.


Assume recounts show reversal in Georgia and Arizona, still he can't win. But then counting issues can cast doubt on the election process and voting machine (allegedly Biden frenly)
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