Rs. 25/day is enough to live - IPC

okemos · Post by **okemos** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:26 pm

Rs. 25/day is enough for living in India - Indian Planning Commission

In a startling affidavit before the Supreme Court, the Planning Commission has said an individual income of just Rs. 25 a day constitutes adequate “private expenditure on food, education and health.”

The affidavit, submitted on Tuesday, bases its assertion on the findings of the Suresh Tendulkar Committee, which pegged the poverty line at Rs. 447 a month, or about Rs. 15 a day, at 2004-2005 prices.

To read more visit: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2471104.ece?homepage=true

okemos · Post by **okemos** » Wed Sep 21, 2011 11:43 pm

My request to fellow R2Ier's. Don't spend too much of your time on "How much is enough" thread. Just read this IPC report and get ready to take the next flight to India for a successful R2I.

Please share your thoughts on this report by Indian Planning Commission.

satbab · Post by **satbab** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 7:52 am

BS....

Today a small cup of tea is Rs. 5. Rs. 25 will get you nothing. Prices have gone up considerably from 2005. Petrol, a litre, was Rs.45 then, now it is Rs. 70.

NELLAIKUMAR · Post by **NELLAIKUMAR** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 8:54 am

Forget petrol and Diesel... Even if a family of four sleeps in the platform and no need to spend anything on housing, they cannot even have one meal a day using this Rs.25.

Ask the Ministers and the planning commission elites to survive on 25 Rs a day and then let them come up with this BS.

mn_op · Post by **mn_op** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:49 am

okemos;411574
In a startling affidavit before the Supreme Court, the Planning Commission has said an individual income of just Rs. 25 a day constitutes adequate “private expenditure on food, education and health.”

This just means that a lot of families in India live on Rs 3000 per month. Although I don't trust incompetent fools who work for Indian govt and their freaking silly reports, I would say that this is a factual information.

In theory, health and education expenses are minimal as Govt provides both things free of cost. If you have a below poverty line (BPL) card, you get many things free of cost and many others at substantially low cost. A lot of political leaders ensure that poor people in their constituency get BPL card at the soonest. I have not read the report to find out whether it includes cost of accomodation.

India is a poor third world country. Due to sheer size of the population, you have millions of each type. Superrich to ultrapoor. Govt has to draw line somewhere...if it decides to draw it at 10,000 per month income, half of India will be below poverty line and real poor will not get their due share. To me 3000 per month family (of four) income is a right income that serves as a poverty line. This is NOT to say that this ensures a good life. This income merely ensures being alive.

Now, its absurd to bring expenses of an average NRI into this discussion. The discussion is about the definition of dirt poor and one needs to know how much a family of dirt poor needs to buy rice/wheat every month.

Helios · Post by **Helios** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 3:12 pm

mn_op;411705This just means that a lot of families in India live on Rs 3000 per month.[/quote]
31 x 30 = 3000?

dbs · Post by **dbs** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 4:43 pm

foxbatneo;41171731 x 30 = 3000?

Individual(31) income v/s family income.

okemos · Post by **okemos** » Thu Sep 22, 2011 11:58 pm

mn_op;411705This just means that a lot of families in India live on Rs 3000 per month. Although I don't trust incompetent fools who work for Indian govt and their freaking silly reports, I would say that this is a factual information.

In theory, health and education expenses are minimal as Govt provides both things free of cost. If you have a below poverty line (BPL) card, you get many things free of cost and many others at substantially low cost. A lot of political leaders ensure that poor people in their constituency get BPL card at the soonest. I have not read the report to find out whether it includes cost of accomodation.

India is a poor third world country. Due to sheer size of the population, you have millions of each type. Superrich to ultrapoor. Govt has to draw line somewhere...if it decides to draw it at 10,000 per month income, half of India will be below poverty line and real poor will not get their due share. To me 3000 per month family (of four) income is a right income that serves as a poverty line. This is NOT to say that this ensures a good life. This income merely ensures being alive.

Now, its absurd to bring expenses of an average NRI into this discussion. The discussion is about the definition of dirt poor and one needs to know how much a family of dirt poor needs to buy rice/wheat every month.

Accoring to the planning commission report, Rs. 25/day will ensure the adequacy of actual private expenditure on food, education and health.

I don't know if this 25 rupees includes the free education and health care that is provided by the Govt. of India.

Also as per the report, if anyone spends 781 rupees per month in a village, then he is considered a rich person and if someone earns Rs. 965 in a month, then he is a rich Indian.

If this is true, can we fix the salaries of politicians and our governement employees salary as per poverty line?.

Why not we pay all the government employees 3 times the recommended earnings of Rs.964 and make them super rich Indians?. How about paying 4 times the recommeded earning to the employees of Indian planning commission? Will they agree for that?

Note: If we apply American or German poverty line, 95% of Indians are belove poverty line.

chandan2011 · Post by **chandan2011** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 1:56 am

okemos;411574Rs. 25/day is enough for living in India - Indian Planning Commission

In a startling affidavit before the Supreme Court, the Planning Commission has said an individual income of just Rs. 25 a day constitutes adequate “private expenditure on food, education and health.”

The affidavit, submitted on Tuesday, bases its assertion on the findings of the Suresh Tendulkar Committee, which pegged the poverty line at Rs. 447 a month, or about Rs. 15 a day, at 2004-2005 prices.

To read more visit: http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/article2471104.ece?homepage=true

4 wadapav and 2 cutting glass tea in 1 day will cost Rs 25. That means a person has to eat that only the entire month according to Suresh Tendulkar.

Imissindia · Post by **Imissindia** » Fri Sep 23, 2011 6:53 am

I believe the spending of around Rs 30 per day is only the amount spent on food, education and health and NOT the total income of a person. Even though this figure looks (and is) really low, keep in mind that a person might be earning 2 to 4 times the amount he/she spends on these 3 items. Hence if we simply assume a 3 to 1 ratio, we get to nearly 100 Rs per person. A family of 4 might be earning say 300 Rs per day (husband +wife) and might spend one 3rd, Rs 100 on food, education and health. This makes their income per month to be approx. Rs 9000. This figure is a realistic figure for poor working families in urban India. The expenditure on food, health and education can be lower if one is savvy and uses the free or subsidised facilities provided. For example, one buys lentils and beand and rice at the govt shop and cooks it for the family. Some families even use wood or cow dung in an effort to save on cooking fuel. While I cannot say that this is a good situation, this is simply the poverty line. No one is saying that they are rich, they are just around the poverty mark at this kind of income levels. Since resources are limited, it makes sense to provide free food to people earning even less than this. As things improve, we can broaden the net.