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VS007
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foxbatneo;218910Huh? How about watching the analysis as to how Shivsena and BJP lost? Have you heard a word called "MaNaSe"?


Its end results that matter however you can post yours.
, and no not heard of manase.


theMan;218911That is a very sweeping generalization. The BJP/SS combined won a 100 seats. So are you saying that the people who voted for this party (about 40% of the seats) subscribe to racist and xenophobic policies?

You are in States so you understand this. Are majority of republican voters racist OR majority of racists vote republican?
KirKS
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This is appalling to the image of Maharashtra as a progressive state. It has India's 3rd largest number of people now living under poverty line!

Maharashtra ranks third among BPL states after UP, Bihar
http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=89327&tp=on

[QUOTE]The Economic survey released by the state government said the poverty estimates provided by the Planning Commission reveal poverty ratio in the state is 30.7 per cent, which is 3.2 per cent higher than the all-India figure of 27.5 per cent.


"Maharashtra had 3.17 crore people below poverty line (BPL) after Uttar Pradesh (5.90 crore) and Bihar (3.69 crore) in 2004-05," the survey said.


- Is it because the so-called BIMARUs exported their poverty to Maharashtra?
- Or is it a reflection of Congress-NCP rule?

Take your bets..
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KirKS;272234This is appalling to the image of Maharashtra as a progressive state. It has India's 3rd largest number of people now living under poverty line!

Maharashtra ranks third among BPL states after UP, Bihar
http://www.business-standard.com/india/storypage.php?autono=89327&tp=on



- Is it because the so-called BIMARUs exported their poverty to Maharashtra?
No.

It is idiocy to look at numbers and not at percentages when large numbers are involved.

Now, if percentage of people in MH BPL has increased, then it is a ding on MH, but again depends upon how much the percentage went up. In a state that has 10% of the population of the country and a large inward migration, while not desirable an increase in BPL numbers should not be surprising and not a reflection on the govt either. People especially BPL will search and travel to the financial mecca.

However, the link you posted does not show that percentage wise the BPL increased in Maharashtra during the decade. With population increase the BPL numbers will increase.

KirKS;272234

- Or is it a reflection of Congress-NCP rule?


Take your bets..
The link you have posted says numbers are from 1994 to 2004 and as I understand that half that time at least Shiv Sena BJP combine ruled MH, so where does this Congress-NCP come in?
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Desi;272274It is idiocy to look at numbers and not at percentages when large numbers are involved.

Now, if percentage of people in MH BPL has increased, then it is a ding on MH, but again depends upon how much the percentage went up. In a state that has 10% of the population of the country and a large inward migration, while not desirable an increase in BPL numbers should not be surprising and not a reflection on the govt either. People especially BPL will search and travel to the financial mecca.

However, the link you posted does not show that percentage wise the BPL increased in Maharashtra during the decade. With population increase the BPL numbers will increase.

The quoted figures were from the Planning Commissions expert group on poverty's report. Their methodology can be found here -> http://planningcommission.nic.in/eg_poverty.htm.

Desi;272274The link you have posted says numbers are from 1994 to 2004 and as I understand that half that time at least Shiv Sena BJP combine ruled MH, so where does this Congress-NCP come in?

The issue is that the 2009-10 Economic Survey of Maharashtra quoting 2004-05 numbers. I hope that the current poverty alleviation policies and programs are not based on past estimates. As you have reflected rightly, it would perhaps give an idea of the effectiveness of policies and programs from the past decade (1994 and prior to 2004).

Again, all it takes is for some non-correlated info to ignite thoughtless comments from the media and politicians -- typical. These reports are available online and one should care to read them, if they are genuinely interested, than depend on callous comments from the politicians or the media.
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Name: Mr. Amaresh Mishra
Role in India:
1) Supposedly a "famed historian" and
2) Chief of the Anti-Communal Front of the All India Congress Committee (AICC)

Here is an example of how history can be manipulated in absolute non-sensical style aka Congressi style of 'anti communalism'. Read his writeup in the 'secular' The Milli Gazette yesterday. Warning - Use your own judgment if you actually followed Mumbai attack on India.

Headley Saga: Mumbai attack was a joint IB-CIA-Mossad-RSS project
By Amaresh Misra
28 March 2010

http://www.milligazette.com/dailyupdate/2010/20100328_003_Headley-Saga-Mumbai-attack-was-joint-IB-CIA-Mossad-RSS-project.htm

No wonder the 'secularism' supporters in UP had offered him a seat in a very 'non communal' way!
http://www.tribuneindia.com/2009/20090223/nation.htm#8

I am sure if such Congressis are allowed to 'write' History as a part of their AICC stamp, students in 2025 would seriously believe that Mossad & RSS carried out Mumbai attack in 2008 November. Hats off Congress party for having such glorious leaders!
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KirKS;273871Name: Mr. Amaresh Mishra
Role in India:
1) Supposedly a "famed historian" and
2) Chief of the Anti-Communal Front of the All India Congress Committee (AICC)


KirKs, Please provide some substantiation for your claim #2? (other than the self claim made in Milli gazette), because it does not resonate with the contents of other link you have posted.

The link you have posted says the following:

[QUOTE]Lucknow, February 22
The Ulema Council yesterday revealed its political ambitions by declaring historian-journalist Amaresh Misra as its Lok Sabha candidate from Lucknow for the forthcoming election.

From above, it does not sound like he is an appointed Congress official.

The article of Amaresh Misra that you posted borders on nonsense and rank speculation and is not history. With that part we agree. I am only seeking evidence whether he has been appointed by Congress a chief of some anti communal front.

http://communalism.blogspot.com/2008/12/amaresh-mishras-web-of-lies.html
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sandeepskar;274037But this nonsense of asking him to give an explanation for his stance of being Gujarat's ambassador is similar to what the Thakares were doing to AB. Bullying. [/quote]
Interesting to read that Bal Thackeray recently backed Amitabh over the Sea Link row. http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/90058/India/Thackeray+backs+Amitabh+over+sea+link+row.html

I always thought that BT's beef was with JB, not necessarily AB. Maybe, I am mistaken.
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boca2blr;274046Interesting to read that Bal Thackeray recently backed Amitabh over the Sea Link row. http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/90058/India/Thackeray+backs+Amitabh+over+sea+link+row.html

I always thought that BT's beef was with JB, not necessarily AB. Maybe, I am mistaken.


To my understanding, Bal Thackeray and Amitabh have cordial relationship whereby Amitabh has helped Uddhav's son and others in Bal's family into the filmdom. Amitabh was bullied by Raj Thackeray, not Bal Thackeray.
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boca2blr;274046Interesting to read that Bal Thackeray recently backed Amitabh over the Sea Link row. http://indiatoday.intoday.in/site/Story/90058/India/Thackeray+backs+Amitabh+over+sea+link+row.html

I always thought that BT's beef was with JB, not necessarily AB. Maybe, I am mistaken.


AB has been in Bal Thakare's good books, Raj was the one who was against Amitabh. Even with Jaya it was RT who created the ruckus - not sure if Bal Thakare also took a stance against Jaya.
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Hyderabad is seeing low intensity riots for 3 nights now. Tonight is the 3rd night of curfew in old city. Today, the riots have spread beyond old city. We had to send yet again our staff home early, particularly those commuting via or from old city.

The initial indications are again pointing to familiar faces.. the Congress party! :p

Congress factions are blaming each other as who is responsible
http://headlinesindia.mapsofindia.com/burning-issues-news/telangana-movement/blame-game-within-congress-over-hyderabad-riots-43684.html

[QUOTE]In a major embarrassment for the Congress government in Andhra Pradesh, a section of its leaders from Telangana have openly charged their own party colleagues from two other regions of being involved in the communal riots in Hyderabad. Congress MP from Nizamabad Madhu Yashki Goud has said that the riots were a conspiracy by leaders from Andhra and Rayalaseema regions as those opposing the demand for statehood to Telangana had been warning Muslims that communal tensions would rise in the separate state.

BJP has asked for judicial probe suspecting the usual Congress foul play:
http://www.ptinews.com/news/588608_BJP-demands-judicial-probe-into-Hyderabad-violence

[QUOTE]BJP today demanded a judicial probe into the attacks on temples and burning of cows during the riots in Hyderabad alleging they were pre-meditated and unprovoked.

"More than 20 temples have been damaged in the riots...

Rioters took full advantage of police laxity and attacked a famous Jain Gaushala in Shamsherjung, where they burnt alive three cows by putting grass and petrol on them," BJP spokesperson Prakash Javadekar alleged at a news conference.
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